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Wind Noise
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Hello all. I am new to your forum, but I have owned a 73 Mach1 for about 30 years. The car has been shuffled from one storage location to another for the last 25 years because I just couldn't bring myself to sell it. I have recently completed a frame off restoration of an old Studebaker Hawk and I am currently in the middle of a restoration of Dad's 50 Studebaker. I am starting to plan my next project which will be the Mustang.

I am considering building the mustang to be my daily driver. I have looked at all the available suspension, brake and power train mods and I think I can build a car that would be enjoyable to drive every day in modern traffic.

The one big question I have left is wind noise. The car would get all new rubber seals and dynamat and lots of sound insulation during the build. What I don't know is how quite these cars can be made in comparison to a modern car. Dad and I took a short road trip in my Studebaker this past weekend to a car show and it was so noisey that we could barely carry on a conversation. The Stude got all new rubber and lots of insulation during the build but the vent windows just don't seal very well.

Looking for any comparison between the noise in a properly restored 73 mustang and a modern car. I would hate to spend $30K on a restoration and then find the car is too noisey to enjoy driving.
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#2
Simply don't try and compare to a "modern car" ! It is 50 years old, wasn't designed as air tight and no attempt to "sound deadened" will come to your MB standards.

Seems some like the "sound of the motor" (over the road noise) and other like the sound of a "sound system" if they don't enjoy the latter. I get it NO ONE wants to have wind noise in their ear. (Door seals are adjustable for fit, tightness and fit to window. (and REPRO are not OEM in both fit and quality of rubber)

Mark
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#3
Window adjustment is key, and you may have to play around with shimming the rood rail seals to get the repops to seal properly.


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#4
Compared to many older cars, I believe these cars are, at least as to wind and road noise, fairly quiet. With my factory exhaust and engine I was able to easily carry on conversations while driving without raising my voice at all.

Or I could be going deaf. . .

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#5
I'd consider my car about as sound proofed as possible. Subtracting out the exhaust (and I've done just about everything possible to reduce that). My ride is about as quiet as my HHR up to to 45-50 mph. 

In fact that is actually my sweet spot where the car is the quietest. The cam must be at the best RPM, because the exhaust is quiet, and the wind noise is still not bad.

After that the wind noise takes over and is louder than the exhaust up to 70 MPH.

The noise if pretty much all coming from where the windows seal with the roof, as compared to the soft top itself, so I can't say how you'll fair out with a hard top, but I assume the aerodynamics with a hard top / fast back will make it better than mine......

it is still not that bad. and I am working on some kinda baffle that I can install up front where the roof, window , and windshield meet, link a wing tip, that'll stop the turbulence or change the air flow characteristics.

73 ragtop, 1999 Mustang Bright Atlantic Blue Paint, Phoenix Engine 302-335HP,  Edelbrock Carb & Performer manifold; c4 with 2000 stall and shiftkit; 3:55 auburn limited slip differential, Hedman shorties; Car Chemistry Exhaust

Classic Air; Tilt Steering Wheel; 1999 Chrysler Sebring bucket Seats ; power windows;
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#6
As long as I can carry on a conversation in a normal tone of voice I will be satisfied. I am guessing the lack of a vent window is probably a big plus for these cars. Thanks for the feedback.

I will be posting my plans for the car in the next few weeks and will be looking for feedback regarding which products people have had the most success with.
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#7
Odd that the older car is so noisy. I have a 1950 Ford two door sedan. When I took my son for a ride in it he was amazed at how quiet it was compared to a new car. When we were stopped at a red light he said the engine had quit. I told him no it was running and he said no way. When the light changed I let clutch out and pulled away. The car has never had exhaust replaced the original still on and still on first set of tires.
For sure some of the newer cars with double door seals and foam in the rockers and padding everywhere are quiet. I never bought a car in my life because it was quiet. Not a selling point to me.


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(11-13-2018, 04:53 PM)Jeff73Mach1 Wrote: Compared to many older cars, I believe these cars are, at least as to wind and road noise, fairly quiet.  With my factory exhaust and engine I was able to easily carry on conversations while driving without raising my voice at all.

Or I could be going deaf. . .

Or you were talking to yourself whistling
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(11-14-2018, 09:49 AM)OMS Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 04:53 PM)Jeff73Mach1 Wrote: Compared to many older cars, I believe these cars are, at least as to wind and road noise, fairly quiet.  With my factory exhaust and engine I was able to easily carry on conversations while driving without raising my voice at all.

Or I could be going deaf. . .

Or you were talking to yourself whistling

Yes, I have such a sexy voice lol

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(11-14-2018, 04:26 PM)Jeff73Mach1 Wrote:
(11-14-2018, 09:49 AM)OMS Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 04:53 PM)Jeff73Mach1 Wrote: Compared to many older cars, I believe these cars are, at least as to wind and road noise, fairly quiet.  With my factory exhaust and engine I was able to easily carry on conversations while driving without raising my voice at all.

Or I could be going deaf. . .

Or you were talking to yourself whistling

Yes, I have such a sexy voice lol

Hey I prefer to talk to myself not as many disagreements, lol.


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