• 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
wheels problem
#1
I bought a set of American Racing wheels today and when I got them home I checked to see if the would fit my 73. Two problems arose.
(sorry for the crappy phone camera pics)

1. The wheels are far to thick and the studs don't really stick out at all.

[Image: CIMG0064.jpg]

I might be able to get shank style lug nuts but I don't know if there is enough room.

[Image: CIMG0066.jpg]

2. Being slotted there is no way of centering the wheels to the hubs.

[Image: CIMG0057.jpg]

My question to you guys is there a simple way to fix this or am I going to have to get them machined to work? In which case I'll polish them and sell them.

Thanks for looking



Jayson
[Image: 36319488731_8f2a376549_z.jpg]
73 Mach 1 Mustang
89 Dodge Shadow ES
94 Jeep Wrangler

  Reply
#2
I wouldn't mess with shank lug nuts. It doesn't look like there is enough room. You'd have to replace the studs with longer ones. As far as centering the rim that looks to be tough. I've never seen slotted holes for the lug nuts like that, I'm iffy on this one.

Steve



[Image: 25yvyp3.jpg]
  Reply
#3
Do you think if I had the holes countersunk it will fix both problems?

Jayson
[Image: 36319488731_8f2a376549_z.jpg]
73 Mach 1 Mustang
89 Dodge Shadow ES
94 Jeep Wrangler

  Reply
#4
You need shank lug nuts and washers to use those wheels. The shank lug nut centers the wheel on the hub.
  Reply
#5
With further inspection I found out that the openings are .685" wide. Perfect shank nut size. I'll grab a few tomorrow and see if it works.

Thanks guys

Jayson
[Image: 36319488731_8f2a376549_z.jpg]
73 Mach 1 Mustang
89 Dodge Shadow ES
94 Jeep Wrangler

  Reply
#6
Make shore you torque the wheels evenly.Then drive it and re torque them.
  Reply
#7
Good deal. The holes didn't look big enough, but that's awesome. Let us know how it turns out. Are slotted holes common? I've never seen them (in my limited experience).

Steve



[Image: 25yvyp3.jpg]
  Reply
#8
My car has from day 1 in Uruguay (the US Embassy "upgraded" them) some Uruguayan made under Ford design, the wheels that are still wearing my car...

That wheels has the same center problem as yours... the center of the wheel appears to be bigger than the center of the wheelbase so, the centering is given by the conical nuts once you bolt the wheel in its place...

I think you can easily "fix" your configuration to use those wheels safely without modifing the wheels... If i were you, i´ll go for longer bolts and those conical nuts as the wheels already have the cavity for that... If you are going for that, check if you need to use spacers first cause that can make the bolts even longer...



Damián Cool

[Image: 120x45bk1ani.gif]
Vote For 7173Mustangs.Com Every Day!
  Reply
#9
sm3570;28504 Wrote:Good deal. The holes didn't look big enough, but that's awesome. Let us know how it turns out. Are slotted holes common? I've never seen them (in my limited experience).

This is the first set I've seen with slots as well. I've seen the multiple bolt spacing wheels but not slotted.

Quote:My car has from day 1 in Uruguay (the US Embassy "upgraded" them) some Uruguayan made under Ford design, the wheels that are still wearing my car...

That wheels has the same center problem as yours... the center of the wheel appears to be bigger than the center of the wheelbase so, the centering is given by the conical nuts once you bolt the wheel in its place...

I think you can easily "fix" your configuration to use those wheels safely without modifing the wheels... If i were you, i´ll go for longer bolts and those conical nuts as the wheels already have the cavity for that... If you are going for that, check if you need to use spacers first cause that can make the bolts even longer...

I'm going to try the shank nuts first and then go longer studs if I have to. The wheels are 15x7 with a 3.5" back space making it a 0 offset. when there were on the car it wasn't interfering with anything but that's with no tires so we'll see what happens.

Thanks for the info.

Jayson
[Image: 36319488731_8f2a376549_z.jpg]
73 Mach 1 Mustang
89 Dodge Shadow ES
94 Jeep Wrangler

  Reply
#10
Same basic hole design as my Cragar S/S.

A couple of tricks:

1. Start the first lug nut and get it on about 4 or 5 threads then pull the wheel onto it.
2. Start the other 4 lun nuts in the same way. So they are just on by a few threads and so you can 'pull' the wheel onto all 5 of them.
3. Screw each one in until it is almost seated but there is still a little 'wiggle room' with the tire and rim. I usually do each one about half way and then go around again.
4. rotate the tire around a few times. This seems to help center it.
5. torque nuts in the 5 start pattern (not round) so they are 'hand tight', just enough to hold the wheel in place
6. torque them again to your specs

That's what works for me... Actual results may vary.. Wink

Oh and NEVER EVER EVER USE AN AIR RATCHET OR IMPACT WRENCH TO INSTALL.

'Mike'
73 Convertible - 351C/4V CC heads/4bolt/forged flat tops/comp 270/rhodes/mallory unilite/tri-power/hookers/glasspacks/c6/3.50 limited slip/Gear Vendors/Global West sub frames, strut rods and shelby style traction bars/ Rear sway bar/tilt steering (not original)

Pics of modifications included in:
  Reply
Share Thread:  


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Problem With TMI Seat Mounts BeerDontCount 3 254 04-09-2018, 08:29 AM
Last Post: mustang7173
  My experiences with bigger wheels luxstang 38 15,069 02-26-2018, 11:11 PM
Last Post: luxstang
  17 vs 18 inch wheels cazsper 14 5,855 10-24-2017, 04:31 AM
Last Post: johnwanzel
  Original wheels and hubcaps jmcgill89 21 5,557 02-11-2017, 01:59 PM
Last Post: Musti
  1973 ignition problem lefty4791 6 1,276 07-10-2016, 02:33 PM
Last Post: Pegleg
  Forged Aluminum Wheels Cole 11 2,107 05-05-2016, 02:32 PM
Last Post: sdstang
  Show your wheels and tires! protouringstang73 72 12,497 05-01-2016, 06:44 PM
Last Post: Austin Vert
  how to keep aluminum wheels from oxidizing sdstang 9 1,798 12-26-2015, 10:02 PM
Last Post: sdstang



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)