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WHATS CONCIDERD ORIGINAL
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WHEN I BOUGHT MY CAR IT HAD A 460 IN IT, THOUGHT OF STROKING IT BIGGER JUST TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT AND NOT JUST A HALF ASSED REPLACEMENT. I RECENTLY FOUND A 351 THAT APPEARS TO HAVE ALL THE RIGHT CASTING NUMBERS TO MAKE IT ORIGINAL. SO HOW FAR CAN AN ENGINE BE TRACED IF THERE IS NO VIN ON THE PARTS, ARE THEY LIKE GM? I HAVE A 71 MACH M CODE, I FOUND A DOAE-L BLOCK WHICH SHOWS UP AS THE PROPER YEAR, AND IT HAS THE CORRESPONDING HEADS,THAT SHOULD OF CAME ON IT. IF I DRIVE 8HRS. AND BUY IT AND 8HRS. BACK DOES ANYONE THINK I WOULD HAVE AN ORIGINAL CAR?
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PAPPY HAROLD;12113 Wrote:WHEN I BOUGHT MY CAR IT HAD A 460 IN IT, THOUGHT OF STROKING IT BIGGER JUST TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT AND NOT JUST A HALF ASSED REPLACEMENT. I RECENTLY FOUND A 351 THAT APPEARS TO HAVE ALL THE RIGHT CASTING NUMBERS TO MAKE IT ORIGINAL. SO HOW FAR CAN AN ENGINE BE TRACED IF THERE IS NO VIN ON THE PARTS, ARE THEY LIKE GM? I HAVE A 71 MACH M CODE, I FOUND A DOAE-L BLOCK WHICH SHOWS UP AS THE PROPER YEAR, AND IT HAS THE CORRESPONDING HEADS,THAT SHOULD OF CAME ON IT. IF I DRIVE 8HRS. AND BUY IT AND 8HRS. BACK DOES ANYONE THINK I WOULD HAVE AN ORIGINAL CAR?

I'm going the other way with mine, I have a 4V Cleveland but my car was originally an H code 2V according to the VIN. I figure I'll make this my big block beast!
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I KNOW WHERE YOUR AT. I WAS GOING TO GO 545. NOT ALL OUT RACE BUT SOMETHING YOU COULD FEEL UNDER YOUR FEET, AND HEAR A MILE AWAY. I MAY STILL END UP THERE BUT IF I DONT LET ME KNOW HOW BAD I MESSED UP
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PAPPY HAROLD;12113 Wrote:WHEN I BOUGHT MY CAR IT HAD A 460 IN IT, THOUGHT OF STROKING IT BIGGER JUST TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT AND NOT JUST A HALF ASSED REPLACEMENT. I RECENTLY FOUND A 351 THAT APPEARS TO HAVE ALL THE RIGHT CASTING NUMBERS TO MAKE IT ORIGINAL. SO HOW FAR CAN AN ENGINE BE TRACED IF THERE IS NO VIN ON THE PARTS, ARE THEY LIKE GM? I HAVE A 71 MACH M CODE, I FOUND A DOAE-L BLOCK WHICH SHOWS UP AS THE PROPER YEAR, AND IT HAS THE CORRESPONDING HEADS,THAT SHOULD OF CAME ON IT. IF I DRIVE 8HRS. AND BUY IT AND 8HRS. BACK DOES ANYONE THINK I WOULD HAVE AN ORIGINAL CAR?
Do you know the build date of your car? The exact date can be obtained from Ford Motor Company via project 999 for free. The month and year should be on the VIN decal on left door. The cast dates on drive line components should predate the build date by several weeks. I'm not sure about 1971 but my 1972 has the last 6 digits of the VIN stamped on the block and heads. In general my opinion is put a 351C-4V back in the car. It will be worth more and will handle better. PS If you want power it can be had with a 351C-4v based engine. My last 408C, 9.5:1 pump gas, flat tappet, Ford headed engine made 529 HP/496 TQ peak.

Chuck
I meant to say the VIN was stamped on the block and transmission. Sorry for any confusion caused. Chuck
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c9zx;12122 Wrote:
PAPPY HAROLD;12113 Wrote:WHEN I BOUGHT MY CAR IT HAD A 460 IN IT, THOUGHT OF STROKING IT BIGGER JUST TO MAKE IT DIFFERENT AND NOT JUST A HALF ASSED REPLACEMENT. I RECENTLY FOUND A 351 THAT APPEARS TO HAVE ALL THE RIGHT CASTING NUMBERS TO MAKE IT ORIGINAL. SO HOW FAR CAN AN ENGINE BE TRACED IF THERE IS NO VIN ON THE PARTS, ARE THEY LIKE GM? I HAVE A 71 MACH M CODE, I FOUND A DOAE-L BLOCK WHICH SHOWS UP AS THE PROPER YEAR, AND IT HAS THE CORRESPONDING HEADS,THAT SHOULD OF CAME ON IT. IF I DRIVE 8HRS. AND BUY IT AND 8HRS. BACK DOES ANYONE THINK I WOULD HAVE AN ORIGINAL CAR?
Do you know the build date of your car? The exact date can be obtained from Ford Motor Company via project 999 for free. The month and year should be on the VIN decal on left door. The cast dates on drive line components should predate the build date by several weeks. I'm not sure about 1971 but my 1972 has the last 6 digits of the VIN stamped on the block and heads. In general my opinion is put a 351C-4V back in the car. It will be worth more and will handle better. PS If you want power it can be had with a 351C-4v based engine. My last 408C, 9.5:1 pump gas, flat tappet, Ford headed engine made 529 HP/496 TQ peak.

Chuck

I'm amazed that the motor was matched to the VIN... guess I've never been a concours type guy. Huh Certainly nothing wrong with those HP/TQ numbers. I suppose I'm preserving my Cleveland option by building it for my 79 F-100, but I digress!
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#6
THE MOTOR CASTING NUMBER SHOWS 70-71, PRODDUCTION DATE OF MY CAR IS 11-70 THE ONE IM LOOKING AT IS IN THAT ERA AND HOLY COW ON YOUR ENGINE IF I GET IT WE GOTTA TALK. AND THATS WHY I WAS THINKING OF BUYING IT IS TO INCREASE VALUE
71 BAD MACH NO NO IM NOT SAYING THAT THE NUMBER WAS MATCHED. IM ASKING IF THEY WERE. I DONT SEE HOW THEY COULD BUT BEFORE I SPEND MORE MONEY I WANTED TO BE SURE
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Hello pappy!!... Well... if i understand you correctly (i´m from a spanish languague country so i kinde mess up some times...) you´re about to make the choice of modifing your car or invest the same kind of money but for bringing his back to his factory specs...

Well... i´m a factory stock fan and since i find this guys from this forum, i´m on that plan with my mustang... Mine is an I6 so you can imagine how hard my decission was... i go faster by bus!! Tongue

In my opinion, you have to think what are you gonna enjoy the most... a 351 car is a power car too... i´ll be more than happy if i had that much torq under my feet in this agressive body... For me, 600 HP is too much that you can enjoy just driving so... if i were you i´ll probably go for the stock restoration, putting my eye on the small details and so... i enjoy that....

You just have to think about what car do you want to have... that´s the important thing here... Investing right to your fun hobbie you could say...

Well.. keep us posted.. post some pics!!



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#8
I THINK I MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. I JUST READ THE MARTI REPORTS SECTION AND FOUND NO CONNECTION BETWEEN VIN AND CASTING NUMBERS, ONLY THE BASIC DESC. 351C4V. SO I GUESS IF I GET THE RIGHT YR ENGINE I SHOULD BE GOOD. THANKS TO ALL....
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PAPPY HAROLD;12160 Wrote:I THINK I MIGHT HAVE ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. I JUST READ THE MARTI REPORTS SECTION AND FOUND NO CONNECTION BETWEEN VIN AND CASTING NUMBERS, ONLY THE BASIC DESC. 351C4V. SO I GUESS IF I GET THE RIGHT YR ENGINE I SHOULD BE GOOD. THANKS TO ALL....

Hello, the last 6 digits of the VIN would be stamped on the block and transmission.
Also I have a fresh 71 M code motor [ still wrapped in plastic from the engine builder ] sitting here.
Don

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#10
THANKS DON.. I HAD A FEELING YOU WOULD KNOW. I TRIED TO CALL YA YESTERDAY, BUT IT WAS TO LATE IN THE DAY,BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT IT.
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