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What is in the circles?
#1
Hey guys,

Everytime I'm checking the wiring diagrams I'm never sure what it is inside these circles:

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Does 1 wire split in two? Or does it go one way or the other depending on a certain part being present (elec. choke for instance).

If someone can please explain how to read the inside of these circles (in general, not specifically these) that would be much appreciated :-)

Thanks,
Vincent.
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#2
It is a splice, signified in the harness by a big black rubbery sleeve looking thing.

Mike
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Black 1985 GT
Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1
Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390ci, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI
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#3
Negative on splice. What that diagram means is that there are two versions of the wiring, depending upon application. In this particular case, you'll looking at the wiring for the voltage regulator/alternator, of which there is a version for the alternator indicator lamp (standard dash cluster) and ammeter (tach dash and/or 3 gauge center cluster where the ammeter resides). The VR circuitry is different depending upon which version you have.

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#4
I stand corrected. I'll defer to the expert.

Mike
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Black 1985 GT
Yellow 1973 Mustang Mach 1
Black 2012 5.0 GT, 6-speed, Brembo brakes, 3.73's
Wimbledon White 1966 F-100 Shortbed Styleside, 390ci, Tremec 3550, FiTech EFI
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#5
Thanks both for your reply :-)

I get the general idea but it leaves a bit of room for misinterpretation so I would like to make it clearer... In the bottom circle, wire 904 can connect to wire 4 AND/OR wire 904. Is it AND or OR? Or could it be both? What I'm uncertain about is if these situations are ALWAYS 1 on 1. Is there a rule about this?

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Vincent.
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#6
It is OR, depending upon overall configuration. You cannot mix and match.

These schematics leave much to be desired for their preciseness.

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#7
(02-28-2017, 06:42 AM)midlife Wrote: It is OR, depending upon overall configuration.  You cannot mix and match.

These schematics leave much to be desired for their preciseness.

Thank you, that clarifies at least something. Doesn't make them easier to read though haha. They could also tell us a bit about which parts were optional then I guess.
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#8
Vincent, what I found helpful was to print a copy 'for my car' and draw a connection to indicate which one is used for my car. I actually used highlighter pen and would 'trace' the circuit, including the gap in the circles. This made it much easier to follow and understand.

Generally the diagram is easy to follow, even for a novice like myself. But I did find the alternator/amp meter wiring rather confusing. The combination of it being part of the charging circuit and the difference in wiring for an 'idiot light' vs an amp meter added to the confusion. I also didn't know about using a 'shunt' in the circuit or what that meant. Basically the charging circuit is split in to two separate wires in our cars when using the amp meter. Effectivly half of the power goes through each wire. This allowed Ford to run a smaller gauge wires to the Amp meter. This had a couple of advantages. Cost, since the smaller wire is less expensive and the amp meter design only has to handle half the power. And less chance of a fire. The AMP meter in my old jeep handles the full load and when the connectors gets old and loose from jiggling around in a car they create resistence which in turn generates heat. It is not unusual for the dash to catch fire.

'Mike'
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#9
(02-28-2017, 08:40 AM)will e Wrote: Vincent, what I found helpful was to print a copy 'for my car' and draw a connection to indicate which one is used for my car.  I actually used highlighter pen and would 'trace' the circuit, including the gap in the circles.  This made it much easier to follow and understand.

Yeah, I was thinking of doing that too. I'll get there :-)
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#10
I'm not sure if this would help with the problem, but I purchased Forel Publishing Inc's 1971 Colorized Mustang Wiring and Vacuum Diagrams. CD ( also there is a Parts &Body Illustration CD and both are licensed by Ford) The website does not show them for other years, but an inquiry may be in order. I don't know how many differences there are between years. The CD's are installed on my desktop for easy reference. Just a note, these do need to be licensed when installing them, no big problem though.  www.ForelPublishing.com
While any wiring diagram is foreign to me, it may be clearer to the experts out there and assist our friend in need.
Geoff.
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