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Vin questions.
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Hey everyone, I purchased a 1973 fastback without a data plate. The car is registered with the vin on the dash however I know how easily that could have changed so doing some digging I removed the fender to find the partial vin which doesn’t match the dash vin. I also have a buck tag which is very hard to read. Attached are some pictures of all 3 places and what they read. If anyone hasn’t some on-site on what i I it greatly appreciate appreciated. 

Ps. The previous owner said it had a 302 in It which was replaced with a 351C.


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well neither of those VIN numbers is a 1973. The dash VIN is a 1972 and the fender and buck tag are 1971. Also the buck tag vin looks like it starts 1F01F which is from a 1971 hardtop coupe with a 302. the dash vin 2F05F is from a 1972 Mach 1 with a 302.

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(04-24-2019, 01:35 PM)73pony Wrote: well neither of those VIN numbers is a 1973. The dash VIN is a 1972 and the fender and buck tag are 1971. Also the buck tag vin looks like it starts 1F01F which is from a 1971 hardtop coupe with a 302. the dash vin 2F05F is from a 1972 Mach 1 with a 302.


My apologies, I fat fingered it, it is a 72 not a 73. It also isn’t a coupe, definitely a fastback or Mach 1 just not sure which.


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It could be that due to rust or accident damage in the past that they replaced the front clip with that of a 71 coupe.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

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(04-24-2019, 01:40 PM)73pony Wrote: It could be that due to rust or accident damage in the past that they replaced the front clip with that of a 71 coupe.


Makes sense, what about the vin under the fender? Is there any information that gives? I would think that would gove the most original aspect.


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The shock tower VIN 1F128918   matches the buck tag F01F128918  65D which means the serial number is from a 1971 302 coupe
Did you just buy it, I would be going back to the seller
I would want documentation that you bought it this way - the shock tower VIN is a major
identifier for theft
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(04-24-2019, 01:45 PM)OMS Wrote: The shock tower VIN 1F128918   matches the buck tag F01F128918  65D which means the serial number is from a 1971 302 coupe
Did you just buy it, I would be going back to the seller
I would want documentation that you bought it this way - the shock tower VIN is a major
identifier for theft


I would assume that the front clip was replaced with a coupe clip then. I purchased it a few months back, and it is already registered through the state with no problems. I’m just getting around to straightening out fenders and prepping for new paint and was curious with what I had!


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(04-24-2019, 01:54 PM)Usafsac Wrote:
(04-24-2019, 01:45 PM)OMS Wrote: The shock tower VIN 1F128918   matches the buck tag F01F128918  65D which means the serial number is from a 1971 302 coupe
Did you just buy it, I would be going back to the seller
I would want documentation that you bought it this way - the shock tower VIN is a major
identifier for theft


I would assume that the front clip was replaced with a coupe clip then. I purchased it a few months back, and it is already registered through the state with no problems. I’m just getting around to straightening out fenders and prepping for new paint and was curious with what I had!


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I know it's registered and all but ...
Was it a local sale ? 
I still would want some answers and if a local sale, make the seller write some paperwork with the other VIN to cover you.
What happens if the gets stolen or wrecked later on there may be issues there with insurance co or the police as your VINs don't match.
What about if you decide to sell it.
There are several states that would inspect that car if is was transferred to one of them.

Also if the clip was changed how good of a job was done ?
Or did someone take a coupe and make a Mach 1 by cutting the roof off.
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(04-24-2019, 02:15 PM)OMS Wrote:
(04-24-2019, 01:54 PM)Usafsac Wrote:
(04-24-2019, 01:45 PM)OMS Wrote: The shock tower VIN 1F128918   matches the buck tag F01F128918  65D which means the serial number is from a 1971 302 coupe
Did you just buy it, I would be going back to the seller
I would want documentation that you bought it this way - the shock tower VIN is a major
identifier for theft


I would assume that the front clip was replaced with a coupe clip then. I purchased it a few months back, and it is already registered through the state with no problems. I’m just getting around to straightening out fenders and prepping for new paint and was curious with what I had!


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I know it's registered and all but ...
Was it a local sale ? 
I still would want some answers and if a local sale, make the seller write some paperwork with the other VIN to cover you.
What happens if the gets stolen or wrecked later on there may be issues there with insurance co or the police as your VINs don't match.
What about if you decide to sell it.
There are several states that would inspect that car if is was transferred to one of them.

Also if the clip was changed how good of a job was done ?
Or did someone take a coupe and make a Mach 1 by cutting the roof off.


I’ll get ahold of the previous owner to get some paperwork on it however he has had it sitting under an overhang for the past few years and got it on trade. He was going to fix it up and give it to his son to drive however his son lost interest so being able to track down whoever did the swap would be nearly impossible.

Visually I wouldn’t be able to tell you whether the clip was changed or the top was chopped. If that’s what was done they did an excellent job. I’m planning to strip the paint in the next month or so so I will look for any unusual welds. Thank you!


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Clipping a car was a very common fix in the 60's and 70's. They'd go to the local scrapper and buy the section of the car they needed, slice, dice and voila! Car fixed. Since you have the fenders off, look around the aprons and rails for any fairly obvious welds or repairs that don't look quite factory. If you find them, you know what happened. I'd also look for stamping date codes on the sheetmetal inside the car. Those are very difficult to fake and can point to an approximate assembly date. Get a Marti report for the dash VIN and if those date codes and the options info on the report all jive, then it's probably pretty safe to say you have the correct VIN. If things don't match, say you have green paint on the interior metal, but the Marti report says the car was originally red, then you need to figure out your next steps.


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