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Valve covers and flame thrower
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Does the valve covers on the CJ Pony site that says (289,302,351w ) would these valve covers fit the Cleveland engine many say 351w on their site very little say Cleveland,,,,another thing the 45000 flame thrower coil does it send 12v all the time to the distributor???

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#2
Windsor valve covers will not fit a Cleveland.

The coil doesn't send 12V to anything, it receives ~7V volts from the ignition power feed.


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#3
To be clear, the 45000V coil delivers that to the plugs. A Pertronix Flamethrower coil needs to receive a full 12V. You will need to either cut and bypass the pink resistor wire or buy the Pertronix relay for an easy install to provide the 12V. Do NOT use that coil with points. It is for the Pertronix Ignitor I or II module only.
Th Cleveland valve covers have 8 bolts, the Windsor has 6.
Geoff.

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(02-20-2019, 10:49 AM)Stanglover Wrote: To be clear, the 45000V coil delivers that to the plugs. A Pertronix Flamethrower coil needs to receive a full 12V. You will need to either cut and bypass the pink resistor wire or buy the Pertronix relay for an easy install to provide the 12V. Do NOT use that coil with points. It is for the Pertronix Ignitor I or II module only.
Th Cleveland valve covers have 8 bolts, the Windsor has 6.
Geoff.

Thanks Geoff ill hold off and buy dis. that comes with igniter great tx

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(02-20-2019, 10:39 AM)Hemikiller Wrote: Windsor valve covers will not fit a Cleveland.

The coil doesn't send 12V to anything, it receives ~7V volts from the ignition power feed.

Thanks bro I was just worried about  12v  going to the points Thanks for the help iv been trucking for 30 years and have been out of the car thing and into truck engines so now retired its time to get back into the car thing...

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(02-20-2019, 11:53 AM)batwrangler Wrote:
(02-20-2019, 10:49 AM)Stanglover Wrote: To be clear, the 45000V coil delivers that to the plugs. A Pertronix Flamethrower coil needs to receive a full 12V. You will need to either cut and bypass the pink resistor wire or buy the Pertronix relay for an easy install to provide the 12V. Do NOT use that coil with points. It is for the Pertronix Ignitor I or II module only.
Th Cleveland valve covers have 8 bolts, the Windsor has 6.
Geoff.

Thanks Geoff ill hold off and buy dis. that comes with igniter great tx

 I'd recommend the Pertronix Ignitor II and Flamethrower II matching coil (or match the Ignitor you buy to the coil you have if that makes sense) There are coils for the I, II and III (the I and II may be the same, not sure)
Another way to tell the PI and PII, the PI is black and the PII is red. Very easy to wire in, but you do need the full 12 V. I don't have info about the relay.
Another great option is to go with a Dura Spark distributor set up. I believe it's Performance Distributors that sell them set up for YOUR engine application. You can buy stock elsewhere.



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Your concern was valid about supplying 12 volts to the coil and points. The reason for reducing the voltage to the coil is to reduce pitting on the points, they don't last long with 12 volts to the coil.

If your distributor is in good operating condition you can just replace your points with a Pertronix module. You can also get higher performance coils that work on the reduced voltage. Just look for one that is for an external resistor.

A DuraSpark ignition is also popular for our cars. Cleveland engines use the same distributors as 429/460 engines, so the distributors are readily available for Cleveland's.



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#8
Got it,,, ill go with pertronix 1 or 2 I heard not to use 3 with 45000 flame thrower new regulator Motorcraft,,

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Got it ill go with pertronix 1 or 2 I heard not to use 3 with 45000 flame thrower new regulator Motorcraft,,

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#10
p1 as a static dwell angle, p2 is variable.
I run p1 since late 80's. Love these simple durable parts.

73 modified Grandé 351C. Almost done. 
71 429CJ. In progress
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