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Toploader question
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Okay, feel free to roast me over this, but would a 4 speed toploader out of a 1965 mustang be any different than one out of a 71-73 mustang?  I have a line on one for my 29 Tudor at a pretty decent price $500 and in the local area.

Other than the early 25 spline input shaft is there anything else I need to look out for other than normal issues?

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(10-08-2018, 04:41 PM)Jeff73Mach1 Wrote: Okay, feel free to roast me over this, but would a 4 speed toploader out of a 1965 mustang be any different than one out of a 71-73 mustang?  I have a line on one for my 29 Tudor at a pretty decent price $500 and in the local area.

Other than the early 25 spline input shaft is there anything else I need to look out for other than normal issues?

Jeff, It will work just fine as long as you have the proper drive shaft. The one I removed from my car was a 65 model if I remember correctly. Best info out there that I could find is here. http://www.davidkeetoploaders.com/idchart1.htm
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First toploader I had was an HEH-BW wide ratio which I put into my first 71 sportsroof. $500 is a good price as long as it's not a pile of rusty parts in a box.


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#4
Count the splines on the output shaft. If it is 28 or 31 you should be fine. If it is 25 spline, walk away. Chuck
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#5
If that falls through, I think I have one here
Also have a 67 fairlane close ratio from a 390

Ohio Mustang Supply
440-949-2556

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#6
I do not know that I would walk away for a 25 spline 1964 1/2 for $500. That was the first year for toploader and the 64 1/2 D code came with the 25 spline output. K code got 28 and after having failures in the 25 spline Ford went to 28 across the board in 65. The bolt pattern or flanges on the front of the early ones is narrow. Here are some pictures of one I have. They are difficult to find and anyone restoring a D code 64 1/2 or Falcon would love to have it. Note that the cast bosses on the side are not drilled.
If it is a 25 spline you can simply change the output shaft to a 28 also not a big thing.
They only make the 25 spline for 90 days. Tag will have HEH-G code.

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#7
Looking at David’s pics, is that trans he early narrow bellhousing pattern?

I think most bells had bothe narrow and wide patterns but I can’t remember.

As was mentioned, I would pass on a 25 spline trans...
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#8
https://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/d/1...46698.html

So here is the ad- I think I can get it cheaper, but something about it is concerning me. YOu have all been so helpful in sharing your knowledge, if anyone would look at the ad and the photos and tell me what they see, I would be appreciative.

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nothing to see here

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My comment was made in the context of the OP's stated intended use of the transmission.  I made no statement as to the restoration value of a 25 spline transmission. It may be desirable for a low powered restoration project. Chuck
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