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Summer deadline - 72 Mach 1 Build thread
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(03-04-2019, 04:19 PM)Stanglover Wrote: Not having had to do mine, I can't speak from direct experience, BUT floor pans are structural. Have them welded in by someone who know what he's (or she's) doing' I say this because I know someone who bought a car with "new floor pans" welded in. He had to have it all cut and re-welded correctly.
I'm sure there are many other members who can add to this from there own experience.
Yes that "can of worms" gets bigger and more expensive!!

EDIT:
Bet you wish you hadn't asked how to get that plastic fuel line clip out now Eh!!
Geoff.

ha, i always planned to get to the floor at some point just didnt think it was this bad. from the underneath it looked solid but thinking about it now, seller put some nice new carpets in (actually they're not so nice and will get thrown in the bin when I'm done) and undersealed car so one couldnt see any issues. that said, some folks would probably patch it but i dont see the point.

i take your point about it being structural, but to be honest even though I've only welded a few times, it should be a doddle. just need to make sure i get the spot welds out and then lay in the pan. I wasn't able to find a floor pan that reaches to the rear seat fully so will need to patch a small hole in the back seat area.

looking forward to doing my first floor pans, will take my time  !!
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#12
(03-04-2019, 05:51 PM)baz70 Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 04:19 PM)Stanglover Wrote: Not having had to do mine, I can't speak from direct experience, BUT floor pans are structural. Have them welded in by someone who know what he's (or she's) doing' I say this because I know someone who bought a car with "new floor pans" welded in. He had to have it all cut and re-welded correctly.
I'm sure there are many other members who can add to this from there own experience.
Yes that "can of worms" gets bigger and more expensive!!

EDIT:
Bet you wish you hadn't asked how to get that plastic fuel line clip out now Eh!!
Geoff.

ha, i always planned to get to the floor at some point just didnt think it was this bad. from the underneath it looked solid but thinking about it now, seller put some nice new carpets in (actually they're not so nice and will get thrown in the bin when I'm done) and undersealed car so one couldnt see any issues. that said, some folks would probably patch it but i dont see the point. Ordered from CJPP so should get next week, meantime will see what nasties lurk in the trunk.....

i take your point about it being structural, but to be honest even though I've only welded a few times, it should be a doddle. just need to make sure i get the spot welds out and then lay in the pan. I wasn't able to find a floor pan that reaches to the rear seat fully so will need to patch a small hole in the back seat area.

looking forward to doing my first floor pans, will take my time  !!
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#13
Good luck with your project and if you don't get afflicted by the dreaded "while I'm at it" syndrome you may even keep to your deadline, I certainly didn't!
Like me being international it gets very expensive to ship large parts so the shipping cost is the biggest deciding factor
I prefer to buy from OMS but sometimes for larger parts I''l go through a Sydney supplier or lately have found NPD to be reasonable
Do you have any Mustang parts suppliers in the UK that regularly sea freight parts? May have to wait a few months but certainly cheaper.
You shouldn't have too much problem with welding the floor pans in and best to butt weld. Plenty of info on the web but also check out Q code's videos and posts on this, he does a great video on doing floors just search in the body/chassis tutorials section
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#14
(03-04-2019, 06:16 PM)OzCoupe72 Wrote: Good luck with your project and if you don't get afflicted by the dreaded "while I'm at it" syndrome you may even keep to your deadline, I certainly didn't!
Like me being international it gets very expensive to ship large parts so the shipping cost is the biggest deciding factor
I prefer to buy from OMS but sometimes for larger parts I''l go through a Sydney supplier or lately have found NPD to be reasonable
Do you have any Mustang parts suppliers in the UK that regularly sea freight parts? May have to wait a few months but certainly cheaper.
You shouldn't have too much problem with welding the floor pans in and best to butt weld. Plenty of info on the web but also check out Q code's videos and posts on this, he does a great video on doing floors just search in the body/chassis tutorials section

i just forfeited a holiday to pay for all the parts. I mainly use CJPP, post Brexit we're f£$%ed every which way so just get on and pay for it..... hopefully when the US trade deal comes along (with no strings attached pls) we get tax free imports and can buy parts to our hearts content Smile

floors should be ok, i'll check out those posts, i have seen a couple of good vids on youtube as well. I just need to be patient and take my time. Parts arrive mid March so i will work on detailing wheel arches and engine bay.
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#15
Like I said, not having done this myself or the need to, I can't speak from experience, but what seems most important to my logic is to make sure the car is level in all directions and supported equally to ensure the body stays true, no flex. That's what happened to my friends car he bought, it was all bent out of shape!! (and so was he).
Take your time, do it right and you won't be left sitting in the middle of the road when the bottom drops out!! Just kidding!
Geoff.

PS, One of the Oz members switched his Mustang to right hand drive...…………… just a thought.

I learn something new every day!
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#16
(03-04-2019, 06:32 PM)Oh and forgot to mention you can use the earlier Mustang rear floor sections (under the seat) just need to hammer down a rib baz70 Wrote:
(03-04-2019, 06:16 PM)OzCoupe72 Wrote: Good luck with your project and if you don't get afflicted by the dreaded "while I'm at it" syndrome you may even keep to your deadline, I certainly didn't!
Like me being international it gets very expensive to ship large parts so the shipping cost is the biggest deciding factor
I prefer to buy from OMS but sometimes for larger parts I''l go through a Sydney supplier or lately have found NPD to be reasonable
Do you have any Mustang parts suppliers in the UK that regularly sea freight parts? May have to wait a few months but certainly cheaper.
You shouldn't have too much problem with welding the floor pans in and best to butt weld. Plenty of info on the web but also check out Q code's videos and posts on this, he does a great video on doing floors just search in the body/chassis tutorials section

i just forfeited a holiday to pay for all the parts. I mainly use CJPP, post Brexit we're f£$%ed every which way so just get on and pay for it..... hopefully when the US trade deal comes along (with no strings attached pls) we get tax free imports and can buy parts to our hearts content Smile

floors should be ok, i'll check out those posts, i have seen a couple of good vids on youtube as well. I just need to be patient and take my time. Parts arrive mid March so i will work on detailing wheel arches and engine bay.
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#17
Oh and forgot to mention you can use the earlier 69/70 rear floor sections(under seat)
Just need to hammer down a rib
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#18
Found my build sheet which I hope is not an omen.....

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In other news, no pics but i removed most of the spot welds on the battery fender apron, hope to have the old rusted and poorly patched panel out tomorrow and fresh steel in over the weekend.
On the floor pan then I may just patch rust areas then Por15 it rather than complete new floor. I'm not bottling it, but i would like to keep it simple... also reading some other posts, i need to understand where the water ingress is, i'll check the cowls. Has anybody cut an inspection hole out above the cowl, repaired and seam sealed cowl, then patch welded the panel they cut out back in ? Was also thinking of that approach. Lots of thinking and little doing right now....
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#19
Build Sheet...….. well at least you know it had one!
I feel it's a pity the PO was not totally up front with condition issues. I'm sure he must have known water was getting in somewhere. Could have been something as simple as a window left open in a rain storm...… or two or even extreme humidity.
While you're in there, check the "Sills", rocker Panels to the rest of us, for rust. Hate to bring that up, but better now than later.
all the best with it,
Geoff.

I learn something new every day!
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#20
Ford obviously knew these cars leaked like seives otherwise why put so many drain holes throughout the car if it wasnt to deal with water infiltration

Steve
1971 Grandé
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