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Sport Mirror Questions
#1
Hello all,
Hoping to get some info/help on a few sport mirror questions.
I have researched the forums for similar questions and got some answered. “Stanglover” and ”Not A T5” had an exchange on this topic back in August of 2017 but there wasn’t a definitive answer on the mirror housing size question so bringing it back up in case any new info is available.
1.     I’m looking to add sport mirrors to our 73 vert. When the body work was being done I asked them to weld up the holes in the doors from the aftermarket mirrors that were on the car, they heard –fill all the holes in the door, including the factory mirror holes. So, as a result I need to drill new holes. Can someone tell me what the measurements are for mounting the sport mirrors?  How far from the door edge to the first hole?  Is it the same for both sides? Is there a template for this?
 
2.    I have been trying to find good quality sport mirrors. I have had very poor luck on Ebay purchases. I now have 3 drivers’ side mirrors and one passenger side. All have issues and undisclosed problems the sellers didn’t mention or flat out lied about (glass condition, adjuster knobs broken, bezel damage etc). All of that aside, my question is about the size of the mirror housing. The sellers say all are for 7173 and based on part numbers on the base (with the exception of one of them) they should be,  but what I have found is that all of the mirror housings I have are different sizes, the passenger side being the largest. Can someone with original sport mirrors provide the measurement of the housing across the widest point where the mirror is and top to bottom in the center for both side?   Is the housing supposed to be the same size on both driver and passenger side? I’m wondering if some of the mirrors I have bought were mix and match parts someone put together. Is the mirror size smaller on the passenger side? I bought the Scott Drake passenger side convex mirror glass from NPD and the glass is so small in the housing it looks weird.
Thanks much for any help.

1973 Mustang convertible, F code w/ C4, stock survivor with refresh in progress. Blue glow w/ Blue Comfortweave interior.
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(11-11-2018, 01:07 PM)JimB73 Wrote: Hello all,
Hoping to get some info/help on a few sport mirror questions.
I have researched the forums for similar questions and got some answered. “Stanglover” and ”Not A T5” had an exchange on this topic back in August of 2017 but there wasn’t a definitive answer on the mirror housing size question so bringing it back up in case any new info is available.
1.     I’m looking to add sport mirrors to our 73 vert. When the body work was being done I asked them to weld up the holes in the doors from the aftermarket mirrors that were on the car, they heard –fill all the holes in the door, including the factory mirror holes. So, as a result I need to drill new holes. Can someone tell me what the measurements are for mounting the sport mirrors?  How far from the door edge to the first hole?  Is it the same for both sides? Is there a template for this?
 
2.    I have been trying to find good quality sport mirrors. I have had very poor luck on Ebay purchases. I now have 3 drivers’ side mirrors and one passenger side. All have issues and undisclosed problems the sellers didn’t mention or flat out lied about (glass condition, adjuster knobs broken, bezel damage etc). All of that aside, my question is about the size of the mirror housing. The sellers say all are for 7173 and based on part numbers on the base (with the exception of one of them) they should be,  but what I have found is that all of the mirror housings I have are different sizes, the passenger side being the largest. Can someone with original sport mirrors provide the measurement of the housing across the widest point where the mirror is and top to bottom in the center for both side?   Is the housing supposed to be the same size on both driver and passenger side? I’m wondering if some of the mirrors I have bought were mix and match parts someone put together. Is the mirror size smaller on the passenger side? I bought the Scott Drake passenger side convex mirror glass from NPD and the glass is so small in the housing it looks weird.
Thanks much for any help.

 A bit busy right now, but let me get back to you with some or all of what you need.
Geoff.

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#3
I can do tomorrow have several with mirrors. 
You need to find someone that can put the clinch nuts in for you to mount the mirrors. They have a special tool that works something like a pop rivet. You put the nut in hole and use the tool to clinch the nuts in the door. That is one thing noted on Buck Tag is the mirrors because it had to have the nuts.
Mirrors on other Ford vehicles look similar but are different sizes for sure.


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#4
I have the riv-nuts from AMK
They also sell an install kit but it is not more than some hardware, an Allen head bolt and wrench
I also new and used mirrors

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(11-11-2018, 05:59 PM)Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs Wrote: I can do tomorrow have several with mirrors. 
You need to find someone that can put the clinch nuts in for you to mount the mirrors. They have a special tool that works something like a pop rivet. You put the nut in hole and use the tool to clinch the nuts in the door. That is one thing noted on Buck Tag is the mirrors because it had to have the nuts.
Mirrors on other Ford vehicles look similar but are different sizes for sure.

Thanks David!
I did get the AMK Rivnuts and tool to install (look like a pop rivet tool but with a different head)

1973 Mustang convertible, F code w/ C4, stock survivor with refresh in progress. Blue glow w/ Blue Comfortweave interior.
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(11-11-2018, 06:35 PM)OMS Wrote: I have the riv-nuts from AMK
They also sell an install kit but it is not more than some hardware, an Allen head bolt and wrench
I also new and used mirrors

Thanks!
I may check with you on the used mirrors once I can confirm the correct size.

1973 Mustang convertible, F code w/ C4, stock survivor with refresh in progress. Blue glow w/ Blue Comfortweave interior.
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(11-11-2018, 02:01 PM)Stanglover Wrote:
(11-11-2018, 01:07 PM)JimB73 Wrote: Hello all,
Hoping to get some info/help on a few sport mirror questions.
I have researched the forums for similar questions and got some answered. “Stanglover” and ”Not A T5” had an exchange on this topic back in August of 2017 but there wasn’t a definitive answer on the mirror housing size question so bringing it back up in case any new info is available.
1.     I’m looking to add sport mirrors to our 73 vert. When the body work was being done I asked them to weld up the holes in the doors from the aftermarket mirrors that were on the car, they heard –fill all the holes in the door, including the factory mirror holes. So, as a result I need to drill new holes. Can someone tell me what the measurements are for mounting the sport mirrors?  How far from the door edge to the first hole?  Is it the same for both sides? Is there a template for this?
 
2.    I have been trying to find good quality sport mirrors. I have had very poor luck on Ebay purchases. I now have 3 drivers’ side mirrors and one passenger side. All have issues and undisclosed problems the sellers didn’t mention or flat out lied about (glass condition, adjuster knobs broken, bezel damage etc). All of that aside, my question is about the size of the mirror housing. The sellers say all are for 7173 and based on part numbers on the base (with the exception of one of them) they should be,  but what I have found is that all of the mirror housings I have are different sizes, the passenger side being the largest. Can someone with original sport mirrors provide the measurement of the housing across the widest point where the mirror is and top to bottom in the center for both side?   Is the housing supposed to be the same size on both driver and passenger side? I’m wondering if some of the mirrors I have bought were mix and match parts someone put together. Is the mirror size smaller on the passenger side? I bought the Scott Drake passenger side convex mirror glass from NPD and the glass is so small in the housing it looks weird.
Thanks much for any help.

 A bit busy right now, but let me get back to you with some or all of what you need.
Geoff.

No Problem, Thanks much!

1973 Mustang convertible, F code w/ C4, stock survivor with refresh in progress. Blue glow w/ Blue Comfortweave interior.
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#8
Harbor Freight makes a decent riv-nut setting tool.

https://www.harborfreight.com/45-piece-t...-1210.html

DO NOT use the riv nuts included with the tool. Correct screws are avaialble, they are 10-24 x1" . You can buy them from AMK or any Mustang shop. Riv nuts are also available from them or get them from McMaster.

https://www.mcmaster.com/95105a127


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#9
i used on both mirrors the rubber grommet with brass threaded sleeve. on ebay.. they worked great. i would also suggest the passenger mirror to be convex.
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#10
I'll start with some pics of my mirrors. As you can see, they are not exactly the same dimensions. I have seen some difference in the basic shape between 69 and 71-73's on not only Mustangs, but Montego's & Torino's. The pedestals are for sure different to fit the various door shapes, so be sure to get Mustang pedestals. Right now, mine are out in the shed and I'll need to go find them for the numbers. As for the dimension across the open face, these are die-cast and I see evidence of belt sanding on mine. I can't say with certainty, but as these were being finished in production, "Joe Blow" would press them against a belt sander until it looked okay. This would definitely account for a difference across the open face if one was sanded more than another. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!!
As for the convex mirror and definitely NOT to upset anyone, you're right, that Scott Drake one is the same stupid size as the original, way too small to be useful.
I realize it was made just to fit the factory base plate, but there are options! PM me for details if you have not already got them.
I'll go measure my door placing and get back asap. However, if it were me putting sport mirrors on a car that didn't have them or doing a non concours mod, I'd move them forward by at least 2". I'm a short-ass, and sitting in my driving position, I have to tilt my head backwards to see in the mirror. OK for a 6 footer with the seat all the way back, but not so much for the shorter driver. In fact, had I thought about it when my car was stripped for painting, I should have done just that. Oh we, too late now.
As you can see, quite a difference in sizes. The mirrors shown are my enlarged versions.
Geoff.
EDIT;
Here are the numbers I have. I could only measure the driver door, pass should be the same. From the first screw hole center // to the top of the door, measures 7.75" to the front edge and 1" down from the top line on the door, if that makes sense.
The number on the spare base I have is D1ZB 17713-A as well as RH 60422-401. The number in the housing is a bit hard to read, but appears to be ZB17477-A with ?? 342-402
Hope that helps, but the base number is the most important I would think.


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