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Somebody school me
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First of all thanks for all the nice welcomes on the introduction thread.

I'm internal engine illiterate so please bear with me. I'm looking around shopping online 351 cleveland 2V, 4v, Boss, Cobra Jet's.... What's the big difference besides HP? I guess my question is if I find one that's a 351c 2V for 8 grand I guess it's an intake manifold and a carb and it's a 4v???

Maybe there's a link to another thread or something somebody can hit me up with.

I'm not really concerned with everything matching #'s. I would love the interior and exterior to be stock with as many options as I could get but build an engine over time. What's more cost effective. 8 or nine grand for a nice ride with build-able engine or 15 grand for a little nicer car with 351 Cobra Jet. Apologies for the lack of knowledge. Cool

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You've posed a great question there, Cole. What do you want to do with your 'Stang once you find the right one? Drive it every day, do burnouts on the weekend, take it to the strip every now and then, show it in cars shows, or what? That might make it easier to answer your question.

Doc

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Current "mini-project": interior upgrade Undecided
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I'd like to do burnouts and maybe go to shows but not enter. Just a nice ride that looks sharp and performs well. Not the sharpest detailed car and not the fastest engine. But would like to not be limited by buying a 2v if it takes tons more work to up the performance. Just a weekend ride ya know? Thanks!!

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The 2v and 4v heads are a lot different. here is some starter reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine
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Thanks Bro. Why didn't I think of Wiki. LOL

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Cole;106515 Wrote:Thanks Bro. Why didn't I think of Wiki. LOL

http://reviews.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...0001410755 this is a real good one too..Little more information...Shows ya the big diffrence in the heads and such.
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I think you will be best served by buying the most solid body you can find....An engine can be modified at any point in time....Any V8 has performance potential above stock out of the box, it just really depends on how you are going to drive the car.
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woodsnake;106518 Wrote:I think you will be best served by buying the most solid body you can find....An engine can be modified at any point in time....Any V8 has performance potential above stock out of the box, it just really depends on how you are going to drive the car.

+1 Amen!

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woodsnake;106518 Wrote:I think you will be best served by buying the most solid body you can find....An engine can be modified at any point in time....Any V8 has performance potential above stock out of the box, it just really depends on how you are going to drive the car.

X2 buy the best car you can afford.

Jeff T.

Low buck, touring style, '73 Convertible "rolling restoration", 351c, 2v heads with a shave and a haircut, Performer intake, Holley 650(ish), roller rockers, screw in studs, guideplates, stainless valves, Duraspark / Motorsports MSD, T-5 conversion. 1-1/8" front, 3/4" rear swaybars KYB shocks and some home brewed subframe connectors. Future plans; JGC steering box, Cobra brakes and... paint, interior, etc.

When I die I want to die like grandpa, peacefully in my sleep... not screaming, like his passenger.

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woodsnake;106518 Wrote:I think you will be best served by buying the most solid body you can find....An engine can be modified at any point in time....Any V8 has performance potential above stock out of the box, it just really depends on how you are going to drive the car.

Nailed it! If you are not concered about numbers matching or buying a 'rare collectible' model then find one with a solid body.

The engines are pretty easy to swap out. If you do want to go performance I would generally avoid the 6cyl to start with but most any v8 model will welcome upgrades and engine swaps.

A few things to note if you are going for something more performance oriented:
You want a 9" rear end. Not a deal breaker but the 8" won't handle big power.
Basically the transmissions came in a 'big and small' bellhousing.
the 6cyl, 302,351 all use the small bell housing, the bigger blocks used the big housing. So if you want to swap a 428 into a stock 351 car, the tranmission has to be swapped too. Just something to keep in mind.

On the 351 Clevelands one difference is the 2v and 4v. This is not the number of valves but rather the type of head. 2v heads have smaller ports and valves and came with 2bbl (2 ventri) carbs. The 4v came with 4bbl (4 ventri) carbs. It is NOT uncommon to have a 2v headed car (originally with a 2bb carb) to have an aftermarket 4bbl intake and carb. It still has the smaller ports so don't just assume a car with a 4bbl has the 4v heads.

Both the 2v and 4v versions of the Clevelands were fine motors with lots of performance potential. Don't let this be your limiting factor.

'Mike'
73 Convertible - 351C/4V CC heads/4bolt/forged flat tops/comp 270/rhodes/mallory unilite/tri-power/hookers/glasspacks/c6/3.50 limited slip/Gear Vendors/Global West sub frames, strut rods and shelby style traction bars/ Rear sway bar/tilt steering (not original)

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