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Snap-On and Teng Spanners & Sockets
#1
I am looking to buy some AF tools. Metric are just not snug enough for the Mustang AF nuts and bolts. I am torn between Teng & Snap-On.

Snap-On agents, here in the UK, travel around mechanic shops and peddle their wares and offer mechanics tools on a pay weekly basis and charge no interest fees. I think because of this their tools are overpriced with interest factored into the price. There is no denying Snap-On are a good quality product. But then Snap-On are sold individually making them look more affordable. At least with Teng you can go buy a good set all in one hit

Has anyone purchased Teng spanners or sockets and if so do you rate them?

Steve
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#2
I can't voice an opinion about Teng tools. Snap-on are excellent tools for the most part but, WAY overpriced especially for the amateurs like most of us. I can vouch for the "Gear Wrench" line of hand tools, excellent value in my opinion. https://www.amazon.co.uk/GEARWRENCH-8642...B00YTNUZOK    An even more economical, if not as "pretty", alternative is Tekton tools made in Taiwan not mainland China. I've found the tolls made in Taiwan to be acceptable unlike many made in China. https://www.amazon.co.uk/TEKTON-18792-Co...diy&sr=1-5
Chuck
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(04-06-2019, 03:05 PM)c9zx Wrote: I can't voice an opinion about Teng tools. Snap-on are excellent tools for the most part but, WAY overpriced especially for the amateurs like most of us. I can vouch for the "Gear Wrench" line of hand tools, excellent value in my opinion. https://www.amazon.co.uk/GEARWRENCH-8642...B00YTNUZOK    An even more economical, if not as "pretty", alternative is Tekton tools made in Taiwan not mainland China. I've found the tolls made in Taiwan to be acceptable unlike many made in China. https://www.amazon.co.uk/TEKTON-18792-Co...diy&sr=1-5
Chuck

Chuck, those look good value but all metric. I got metric but they dont fit as well as AF spanners. Its hard to find a set thats AF only. Most companies do a mix of both. I did find these which are all AF with a mix of spanners and sockets. Only drawback no ratchets but thats not the end of the world.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TENG-TOOLS-TT...2264739623

Anyone else have a favourite or preference to another brand?

Steve
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#4
Steve-
If you use SAE in your search instead of AF, you might find more options. SAE and AF are the same thing, but probably anything made for the US will reference SAE instead.

Here is the SAE Gearwrench 13pc set:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GearWrench-9312...QNHCNXX53E
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#5
Oh, and personally, I like Wurth tools. Still a little pricey, in my opinion, but not Snap-On pricey.
Honestly, though, if you learn the details that signify a decent quality tool you might be surprised what you can find out there. I have two sets of sockets, SAE and metric, deeps and shorts that I bought at Autozone (on the lower end of our parts stores here) about 20 years ago. They have been through hell and I have yet to break, fracture or round off any of them. I bought them on sale for $15 each set, marked down from an eye watering $19.95.
And get some breaker bar socket handles for loosening. Nothing worse for your ratchets than the abuse of breaking loose old crusty chassis/suspension bolts.
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#6
I like some Williams tools (Indristrial Line of Snap-On), MAC and Armstrong.

I’d buy something you would use often like a 10mm or 1/2 of each brand you are considering to try them out. Once you get your hands on them then make your choice
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(04-06-2019, 09:55 PM)detritusmaximus Wrote: Steve-
If you use SAE in your search instead of AF, you might find more options. SAE and AF are the same thing, but probably anything made for the US will reference SAE instead.

Here is the SAE Gearwrench 13pc set:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GearWrench-9312...QNHCNXX53E

AHA!!!! SAE. Thank You for the American name for AF, or American Finethread as we British call it
The past 3 years on this site has been a time of big learning. Everyday English spoken by Americans and British makes it very easy to understand each other. However over the past 3 years of being a owner of a Mustang and a member of this site i have discovered Americans and British speak a totally differant language when it comes to the words we allocate to car parts. It has made me appreciate, to some degree, how difficult it must be for people like Fabrice who's first language is not English or American English

Steve
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#8
Many also refer to them as "standard" here in the US, so that's another term for you.

Completely agree with Chuck's opinion on Snap-On. Mac, Matco and Cornwell all offer the same "service" - inflated pricing for to-your-door service and "free" financing" on top quality tools. The whole business model stems from the auto mechanics who are poorly paid, yet are expected to supply their own tools. If you don't have good tools, you waste time and then aren't paid as much. Enter the dealer with your "fix" and before you know it, you're thousands in debt to the tool man. The only bonus to all this is when you finally decide you've had enough of the shop owner's shady crap, you take your tool box and go to another garage. Rinse, repeat. We have a SnapOn truck that stops by our plant on Wednesdays, I typically ask for a cash price if I'm spending more than $100 and he'll give me a little bump.

Just to throw more options onto the fire.

Sunex - another Taiwanese tool company, very nice quality stuff, bought mine from Amazon
Tekton - another good Taiwan brand.

Williams - Snap On's industrial brand.
Proto - Stanley's industrial brand, which also owns Mac
Armstrong - Apex tool group's industrial line
SK Tools

Many of the above are available from places like McMaster Carr.

Craftsman, after screwing themselves up for at least a decade, was bought by Staney and they appear to be making a turnaround and moving tool production back to the US from China.

I've also had excellent luck with tools from German companies Wiha and Wera. Mostly drivers and hex bits, but it was all good stuff.


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#9
At least one of your metric wrenches fit 14 mm and 9/16" are same I think, lol.
SAE is Society of Automotive Engineers. They set the standards for the industry or did, now government does a lot.
I would also search Inch. I have never seen how you can pay the price for the Snap On either. My friend has a huge 6' tall snap on chest with ever tool known in it. I was telling him I had broke 4 of the wrenches trying to get a seat belt out, Torks fastener. He loaned me his Snap On and it broke easier than the cheap ones, lol.
I have one set of cheap tools that does fit both inch and metric and does not mar the fasteners. I think called Metrinch?? I have some Craftsman, some Kobalt and some Stanley. I am not a mechanic for sure but get by with the cheap tools.
Here in the U.S. the pawn shops are full of stolen tools, lol. Some sell at great prices. I picked up a Lincoln wire welder that had never been used for 1/2 the retail price. They have bins full of sockets you can buy one if you have broken one.
I have not split a socket in years even the cheap ones.
At the Wal Mat and for some reason they had Stainley sets for $20.00 for 1/4" & 3/8" drive 80 piece set. I got three. Great to carry when traveling it has all the screw driver, allen, torks and sockets to take the whole car apart in one case.


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(04-07-2019, 03:48 AM)Pegleg Wrote:
(04-06-2019, 09:55 PM)detritusmaximus Wrote: Steve-
If you use SAE in your search instead of AF, you might find more options. SAE and AF are the same thing, but probably anything made for the US will reference SAE instead.

Here is the SAE Gearwrench 13pc set:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GearWrench-9312...QNHCNXX53E

AHA!!!! SAE. Thank You for the American name for AF, or American Finethread as we British call it
The past 3 years on this site has been a time of big learning. Everyday English spoken by Americans and British makes it very easy to understand each other. However over the past 3 years of being a owner of a Mustang and a member of this site i have discovered Americans and British speak a totally differant language when it comes to the words we allocate to car parts. It has made me appreciate, to some degree, how difficult it must be for people like Fabrice who's first language is not English or American English

Yeah, it gets confusing when two or three names are used for the same thing. I think AF actually stands for Across Flats. I saw that when looking things up. Maybe that is to separate it from how another system measures bolt heads, like maybe from point to point? Anyway, in SAE there are fine thread and coarse thread bolts/screws. Not something you really have to worry about, but if you go looking for bolts based on American Finethread, you might not get what you need, especially if it's actually a coarse thread!

McMaster Carr, as Hemikiller mentioned, is an excellent resource to learn about SAE hardware (and American hardware in general). So much information in their catalog and website on hardware. It's like a huge reference source to figure things out.
As an example, hex head bolts:

https://www.mcmaster.com/standard-hex-head-screws

Go to that page then click on About Hex Head Screws and Bolts near the top of the page. There are similar About pages for just about everything they sell.
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