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Slop Gray consistency
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Pastel Blue;272789 Wrote:
c9zx;272788 Wrote:I used the paint David mentioned for all the slop grey parts and did not receive a deduction on a concours driven gold car. I can not imagine a MCA judge deducting for the slop grey being the same.

At the recent Grand Island MCA show, I watched 3 judges go through a B351 Concourse Trailered car and I can attest to your statement above.

Just some thoughts: I asked the MCA the question about the slop gray variation since the owner of the 72 Q-code (noted above) had originally powder coated many of the pieces that were supposed to be finished in slop gray. The powder coat finish - as nice as it was - was nothing close to slop gray and was very noticable. While he was re-finishing them, some of the pieces (hood latch supports vrs shock tower supports) came out just a little bit different - thus the question.

In my own case I found my car's original hue of slop gray between the two hood latch support pieces. I had it scanned and used the formula to make up a quart to finish all my 'slop gray' pieces. Bkdunha is pretty much dead on with his observation of MCA guidelines. I would add that 99% of restored concours 71-73's I recall seeing at MCA shows in the past 20+ years do have the same shade of slop gray on all the underhood pieces.

The late Larry Kennedy, one of the most knowledgable folks I every met on 71-73 mustangs, had a couple original slop gray pieces he kept as reference. I can recall a couple discussions we had on the subject back in the 90's when I was working on my 73 vert. One comment he made back then that I recall was that getting the correct shade of slop gray was very difficult because of how it came about at the production plant.

At this time, there is nothing in MCA concours judging guidelines or judging sheets that would call for a deduction of slop gray components if they are the same shade and/or there is a variation. As bkdunha noted, its appearance on the component itself should be acceptable. If anyone ever does a Thoroughbred restoration of a 71-73, it's possible the subject might come up under greater scrutiny, but until then as long as it appears to be some shade of slop gray, that should be sufficient. I might add that one of the basic tenets of the MCA judging is when in doubt, the car should have the benefit of the doubt.

BTW, the 72 Q-code was awarded a concours driven Gold in its first MCA appearance.
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Bill73Ragtop;272984 Wrote:
Pastel Blue;272789 Wrote:
c9zx;272788 Wrote:I used the paint David mentioned for all the slop grey parts and did not receive a deduction on a concours driven gold car. I can not imagine a MCA judge deducting for the slop grey being the same.

At the recent Grand Island MCA show, I watched 3 judges go through a B351 Concourse Trailered car and I can attest to your statement above.

Just some thoughts: I asked the MCA the question about the slop gray variation since the owner of the 72 Q-code (noted above) had originally powder coated many of the pieces that were supposed to be finished in slop gray. The powder coat finish - as nice as it was - was nothing close to slop gray and was very noticable. While he was re-finishing them, some of the pieces (hood latch supports vrs shock tower supports) came out just a little bit different - thus the question.

In my own case I found my car's original hue of slop gray between the two hood latch support pieces. I had it scanned and used the formula to make up a quart to finish all my 'slop gray' pieces. Bkdunha is pretty much dead on with his observation of MCA guidelines. I would add that 99% of restored concours 71-73's I recall seeing at MCA shows in the past 20+ years do have the same shade of slop gray on all the underhood pieces.

The late Larry Kennedy, one of the most knowledgable folks I every met on 71-73 mustangs, had a couple original slop gray pieces he kept as reference. I can recall a couple discussions we had on the subject back in the 90's when I was working on my 73 vert. One comment he made back then that I recall was that getting the correct shade of slop gray was very difficult because of how it came about at the production plant.

At this time, there is nothing in MCA concours judging guidelines or judging sheets that would call for a deduction of slop gray components if they are the same shade and/or there is a variation. As bkdunha noted, its appearance on the component itself should be acceptable. If anyone ever does a Thoroughbred restoration of a 71-73, it's possible the subject might come up under greater scrutiny, but until then as long as it appears to be some shade of slop gray, that should be sufficient. I might add that one of the basic tenets of the MCA judging is when in doubt, the car should have the benefit of the doubt.

BTW, the 72 Q-code was awarded a concours driven Gold in its first MCA appearance.

That is the key... the MCA thoroughbred class would be the true judge of a factory original, basically unmolested original car when it comes to the factory application of the slop grey paint. Any restored car may not fair well in that class unless the method of obtaining a factory appearing slop grey hue is done as per bkdunha comments and as discussed on the 429 and Concourse sites. From what I have witnessed, even a concourse trailered restored car will not receive deductions for slop grey appearance that is not "dipped" as may have occred at the factory back in the day. My opinion...
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