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restoring interior panel
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runninpony 
Need help on an interior rear panel: on the panel next to the back seat the finish is coming off easily, it's marked up and I'm hoping someone has a suggestion on restoring it, aside from finding a whole new panel. I plan of painting it from ginger to black. Also here's a look from late June when I rescued this car from five years in the woods, don't worry it looks much better now!


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I have the same issue so I am very interested in any suggestion this thread generates. I was thinking that maybe the Krylon spray the bonds with vinyl might give them added surface integrity and protection. Of course I am only speculating at this point. I hope some one who has been down this road has some helpful suggestions.
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#3
Is it the color that is coming off or something else. A picture of the issue would help others respond. Right now I can only assume that it is a painted finish with poor prep prior to painting that is now coming off. With more info. I am sure someone here will get your questioned answered.

BKDunha
72 Mach 1 H-Code (Concourse driven restoration)
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#4
In my case the surface of the panels are brittle and scratch very easy. Simply running your fingernail along it removes a bit of the surface. It's almost as if it rotten if that makes any since. Like how a rotten headliner falls apart. To my knowlege these panels have never been painted. I'm not sure if the factory applies a finish to them or not. I am assuming not. Any ideas? Smile

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#5
I believe that is just dried out plastic. I don't think there is any fix for that. The only thing I could recommend would be to use a good precleaner for plastic to clean the surface thoroughly before applying a paint specifically designed for plastic. Many of the mustang parts houses supply color correct paint and dies for interiors. I will defer to anyone elses advice if they a better solution than this. My cars have not suffered the same problem.

BKDunha
72 Mach 1 H-Code (Concourse driven restoration)
67 S-Code Factory GT with 4-Spd

68 Mercury Cyclone (Pro-Street project)
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#6
BKDUNHA is correct, the plastic is dried out from being beaten on by the sun over the years... I had some success with a customer who didn't want to buy new panels for his car and we sanded the panels smooth, and used a very light coat of chip guard that you would put on some Toyotas to get the texture look and painted his panels... It honestly didn't turn out that bad, Viable option really.

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#7
See all below

http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-conso...r-progress
http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-console-done-pics
http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-resto...-new-video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R_hX3KMzGo&feature=plcp

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From my experience the ginger panels are the worst for deteriorating. I haven't done this technique yet but plan to reinforce a damaged panel from behind with a Fiberglas mesh. This is very similar to what Q outlines in his console repair video. The difference is that I plan to do the entire backside of the panel with the mesh; not just the cracked areas.

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Don65Stang;85188 Wrote:From my experience the ginger panels are the worst for deteriorating. I haven't done this technique yet but plan to reinforce a damaged panel from behind with a Fiberglas mesh. This is very similar to what Q outlines in his console repair video. The difference is that I plan to do the entire backside of the panel with the mesh; not just the cracked areas.
Perfect for an entire brittle panel ! just need to find the proper adhesive..In essence your making a laminate composte piece..I'm thinking possibly laminating epoxy..If you really want to get fancy you could vacuum bag the glass on
http://www.fiberglasssupply.com/Product_...gging.html

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#10
basically UV has broken down the plastic. there is no real fix for it.

to give you an idea my original vermillion red panels were so bad that i could put my finger through the plastic just pushing on it. nothing was holding the plastic together.

because the plastic is so brittle you can't put any weight on it. if somebody got in and out of the car and put weight on the hand rest area they may fall through the panel and get hurt.

you can paint the plastic but any new paint will scratch off it very easily and it will continue to disintegrate.

The fiberglass re-enforcement won't last, eventually the fiberglass will De-laminate from the ABS plastic panel. it would be better to make a mold from the original and create a new quarter panel from fiberglass and finish with Krylon Wrinkle paint to simulate Camera Case black texture. I've seen people try and patch and re-enforce the panel and it will just keep falling apart.

they made reproduction panels and they are complete garbage stay away from them unless you have a track car and need a limited interior.

the only solution is to fabricate new panels from wood shape as needed and cover them with vinyl to make them look factory or cough up lots of money for decent originals. if you attempt to patch the originals with a filler just be aware that if somebody puts weight on it and the plastic is very brittle it will fall apart.

if your plastic is just falling apart on the surface and can take weight without breaking then you can easily Spray paint it with Krylon Fusion paint. it will eat into the plastic slightly and not require a primer.

alternative is using a Plastic Dye spray paint, however i found it does not bond as well as the krylon paint.

just for a reference this is what i had to deal with:
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complete replacement was my only solution

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