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Replacing the front frame
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Got the donor car home yesterday from Stricklands and was all exited to get it ready for the frame guy. After everything I went through with NCDMV about how to legally go about it, I now have a new dilema. I don't know where to make the cut!!! and can't get up with the frame man.
Turns out this thing is in great shape and now I'm not sure where to make the cut. I'm thinking right behind the orange strap at the seam. But looking at the entire rockers, Their pristene!!! Legally, I'm covered from the entire front frame. But if I just cut the back off I'm not so sure. Hell if I was able to get a title from the deceased I'd get another front frame and do them both. What say the group. Sure could use some input.
   
   

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markmel;35684 Wrote:Got the donor car home yesterday from Stricklands and was all exited to get it ready for the frame guy. After everything I went through with NCDOT about how to legally go about it, I now have a new dilema. I don't know where to make the cut!!! and can't get up with the frame man.
Turns out this thing is in great shape and now I'm not sure where to make the cut. I'm thinking right behind the orange strap at the seam. But looking at the entire rockers, Their pristene!!! Legally, I'm covered from the entire front frame. But if I just cut the back off I'm not so sure. Hell if I was able to get a title from the deceased I'd get another front frame and do them both. What say the group. Sure could use some input.
Are you guy's going to clip it ? (section at the windsheild post & across the floor) I HOPE NOT !!!!!!! Need to see a pic of the car that needs the donor parts & I can tell you better


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#3
Getting a title in North Carolina is not as hard as you might think. I hope you mean the DMV because I work for the NCDOT. You can go about it a couple of different ways. I just built a dune buggy out of a VW with no title and they just gave me a new title with new VIN. You have to fill out a mv55 form and then the dmv inspector will come to your house and inspect it and issue a new title. This is an ispection of numbers not a safty inspection.

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#4
I say do them both.

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My Mustangs:
71 M-code Mach 1, Medium Blue/White Sport, 4R70W, 3L50, Factory Ram Air.
72 Q-code Mach 1, Pewter/Black Sport, 4-spd, 3L25.
65 Convertible, Britney Blue/White/White, more modified than original.
05 Convertible, Legend Lime/Tan/Tan, future classic??
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I've been working with the officer at theft and inspection at Wilmington DMV. Did'nt mean to mess that up. This donor car is stripped. Including the dash. If you look at my previous post "VIN number question" You'll see what I went through.
Bottom line was remove the fender VIN from my car and keep it in the car for documentaion. 1.DO NOT WELD IT INTO THE NEW REPLACEMENT FRAME! 2. Document VIN of donor car on bill of sale which I did. Also had the officer run VIN to be sure that it wasn't stolen. Which it wasn't. Officer was a great help. But how far can I go and still have the same car?

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markmel;35693 Wrote:I've been working with the officer at theft and inspection at Wilmington DMV. Did'nt mean to mess that up. This donor car is stripped. Including the dash. If you look at my previous post "VIN number question" You'll see what I went through.
Bottom line was remove the fender VIN from my car and keep it in the car for documentaion. 1.DO NOT WELD IT INTO THE NEW REPLACEMENT FRAME! 2. Document VIN of donor car on bill of sale which I did. Also had him run VIN to be sure that it wasn't stolen. Which it wasn't. Officer was a great help. But how far can I go and still have the same car?
Well...on mine we left the roof. passenger /driver compartment & part of the right frt frame rail the rest is all new ..I only used the left front frame rail..shock towers..& rear apron to upper cowl brackets from a donor car which I bought years ago from a junk yard the rest is n.o.s. panels & aftermarket structural parts...I've been telling everyone all along the same thing about the shock tower apron vins DO NOT WELD IT INTO THE NEW REPLACEMENT FRAME. As long as you document everything with pictures & recipts you can go as far as you want


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#7
I'm going to call the DMV officer at Theft and Inspection. Since the alternate VIN is on the fender frame I would think I can do whatever. But I like to be strait up and down should my kids decide to sell it. I'm also thinking of trying to retitle the donor. i'd hate to take another Mach off the list that is in this good of shape. Maybe I'll order a Marti for the donor and see what it was.

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markmel;35700 Wrote:I'm going to call the DMV officer at Theft and Inspection. Since the alternate VIN is on the fender frame I would think I can do whatever. But I like to be strait up and down should my kids decide to sell it. I'm also thinking of trying to retitle the donor. i'd hate to take another Mach off the list that is in this good of shape. Maybe I'll order a Marti for the donor and see what it was.

Per chance is the buck tag on the donor car? It is located (usually) directly behind the driver side headlight in the bucket area and attached to the radiator support. It there I can decode it and get you almost the same data that Marti will provide.

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My Mustangs:
71 M-code Mach 1, Medium Blue/White Sport, 4R70W, 3L50, Factory Ram Air.
72 Q-code Mach 1, Pewter/Black Sport, 4-spd, 3L25.
65 Convertible, Britney Blue/White/White, more modified than original.
05 Convertible, Legend Lime/Tan/Tan, future classic??
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#9
No. The radiator support and all is missing. I'm going to call Steve and see what he has on this. This is the way it was when I bought it. of couse I was looking for only a solid front frame, but for $800 I figured I couldn't go wrong.

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This is how my donor front clip was grafted in. Mine needed both rails, all aprons, shock towers, etc. Pretty much everything from the cowl forward. Cowl was in good shape thank goodness.

   

   


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