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Qtr window pancake motors
#1
I've done some research in the past on these motors. I have found that they were fairly rare and there are no aftermarket motors. I've come across a few places that sell referb motors with exchange of your old ones.. Problem is when I bought my 73, I assumed they were not functioning but in fact were missing.

Has anyone come across any places that sell the motors without needing a pair in return? or a place that sells broken motors that I could then use for exchange?
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#2
I called on every "junk" 69 -73 Cougar listed for sale in the area and found several that had power windows. I told the owners that if the car did not sell I would give them a couple hundred bucks and haul it off for them. Finally had one call me back and tell me to come get the car. For $200.00 I got a rusty 71 XR7 351C 2V C6 AC PS PB and most importantly PW's. It ran just enough to get it on and off my trailer. Lots of good Mustang part on a Cougar.

Here is a great link showing how to rebuild a pancake motor:

http://www2.cougarpartscatalog.com/store...stang.html

(Click on the description tab at the bottom center of the page and once this opens scroll down)

I had to do this for one of the motors I bought with the cougar - it was surprisingly easy and it now works great. I got replacement brushes from a local farm service that rebuilds starters and the like. ($14.00)

One of my original pancakes had rusted so bad that the bottom of the case had fallen apart. I followed the rebuild steps and it even still kind of worked dispite the condition. The other motor had been removed, taken apart, and most of it internals lost by a previous owner.

Half of the fun is the hunt.

Hope this helps!

Paul
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#3
I might have some cores
Don

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Paul of MO;104742 Wrote:I called on every "junk" 69 -73 Cougar listed for sale in the area and found several that had power windows. I told the owners that if the car did not sell I would give them a couple hundred bucks and haul it off for them. Finally had one call me back and tell me to come get the car. For $200.00 I got a rusty 71 XR7 351C 2V C6 AC PS PB and most importantly PW's. It ran enough to get it on and off my trailer.

Here is the link showing how to rebuild a pancake motor:

http://www2.cougarpartscatalog.com/store...stang.html

(Click on the description tab at the bottom center of the page and once this opens and scroll down)

I had to do this for one of the motors I bought with the cougar - it was surprisingly easy and it now works great. I got replacement brushes from a local farm service that rebuilds starters and the like. ($14.00)

One of my original pancakes had rusted so bad that the bottom of the case had fallen apart. I followed the rebuild steps on it and it even kind of works dispite its condition. The other had been removed, taken apart, and most of it internals lost by a previous owner.

Half of the fun is the hunt.

Hope this helps!

Paul

good info..

I've seen the rebuild link before but I seem to have lost it.. so *thumbs up to the link Smile
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#5
Awesome, link for the rebuild. I need the regulator for the pancake motor drivers side it has a cougar one in it now and the window does not go down the same, Also could use new drivers door tinted power window heck passenger window to.

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Brad Smith
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#6
I can tell this might be something that takes me years to find..
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#7
Someone please verify - I am 99% certain that Cougar and Mustang share the same internals for PW's. I used Cougar stuff in a 73 and it worked just fine. I bet you need to adjust it - it took me some time and some bloody knuckles to get mine working well. My current 73 came with PW's and all I had to do is rebuild one motor and buy the 3 single switches.

You can get the PW door glass new with the cut out at the bottom to clear the motor but it is over 250.00 per side.

When hunting down all the parts needed to add PW's to a non PW car I learned to look in the doors of all roll up cars. I found several with the PW glass in them. The parts car that I just bought had a one PW glass in it. (It also had one flat wound hood spring for some strange reason.)

Your best bet is a parts car. The stuff you are looking for are easier to find than all the clips, plug ends, harnesses, and odds and ends.

Have a happy hunt and I hope it does not take years!

- Paul

mustbrad;104856 Wrote:Awesome, link for the rebuild. I need the regulator for the pancake motor drivers side it has a cougar one in it now and the window does not go down the same, Also could use new drivers door tinted power window heck passenger window to.
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#8
My other side has a different bottom piece where the hole attaches to the window it is straighter than the Cougar one. I think it is off a 1969, the window does not go all the way down I never thought to check other parts cars (great advice) $250 a window for new doesn't sound to bad if it is tinted.

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Brad Smith
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#9
The window motors, regulators, tracks, wiring harness, relay, switches and bezels are the same for 71-73 Mustang and Cougar. I have verified it over the years. I am not sure about window glass. 73 switches are still being made by Dorman. 71/72 switches are being reproduced. Bezels are hard to come by now for all years.

Paul of MO;104909 Wrote:Someone please verify - I am 99% certain that Cougar and Mustang share the same internals for PW's. I used Cougar stuff in a 73 and it worked just fine. I bet you need to adjust it - it took me some time and some bloody knuckles to get mine working well. My current 73 came with PW's and all I had to do is rebuild one motor and buy the 3 single switches.

You can get the PW door glass new with the cut out at the bottom to clear the motor but it is over 250.00 per side.

When hunting down all the parts needed to add PW's to a non PW car I learned to look in the doors of all roll up cars. I found several with the PW glass in them. The parts car that I just bought had a one PW glass in it. (It also had one flat wound hood spring for some strange reason.)

Your best bet is a parts car. The stuff you are looking for are easier to find than all the clips, plug ends, harnesses, and odds and ends.

Have a happy hunt and I hope it does not take years!

- Paul

mustbrad;104856 Wrote:Awesome, link for the rebuild. I need the regulator for the pancake motor drivers side it has a cougar one in it now and the window does not go down the same, Also could use new drivers door tinted power window heck passenger window to.

Paul,
When you are parting out the window parts, make sure you get the section of PW wiring harness that runs from the left door kick panel, up behind the defroster ducts and down to the right door kick panel. Over the years I have seen a lot of the conversion kits leave that part of the harness out because it was so difficult to retrieve from the donor car. My hat is off to you collecting PW parts. I did it years ago myself.
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#10
71-2 switches and bezels are not the same as 73
The plastic switch housings are not interchangable either

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