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possible 1971 mach 1 purchase
#1
Hi all,

I want to start this off by saying I have no knowledge of the older mustangs at all. However, my husband came across a car that he would like to get and work on with our 3 boys (13, 10 and 6). He knows a lot about cars and would be capable of a rebuild. The other last piece of info is that I'm trying to keep it a secret from my hubby since he turns 40 next month and this would be a great gift. lol.

However, here are my questions.

Seller will not share VIN. Not sure why but she is telling me that only the buyer will get to see the VIN number (should be a red flag maybe??).

No engine and no tranny, both were removed.

It has sat outside with windows down so interior is completely shot.

Won't give me a cost. Told me to make an offer.

I've added the only pictures I have. Am I getting in way over my head? Any ideas on restoration costs (I know it will take years)? Any idea on what I should offer? And any other suggestions or advice would be great.

Thanks,

Karla


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#2
Welcome from Iowa. Seems odd that the seller will not share the vin. Maybe possibly ask her for the first part of the VIN and leave off the last six digits. The first part of the VIN will tell you what engine it came with, where it was made, if it is a Mach 1 or a sportsroof. Also having sat outside with windows down the floors, torq boxes, cowl and possibly frame rails are prob rotted out. Looks like a pretty rough car. Not knowing your husbands abilities as far as body work, paint, rust repair, engines, wiring, etc it is difficult to give a cost estimate. Doing most of the work himself he could be easily looking at north of $25k and possibly more depending on what he does for a drivetrain. Seems like more of a parts car to me, but that would depend on the VIN and how it was equipped originally.

'73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

'73 F code convertible. Bright red. Needs total restore. (IE HOT MESS)

- Jason
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#3
ok I asked additional questions starting with if they would share the first part of the vin and how long the car has sat outside with windows down. I guess that would make a difference in how bad it is inside???
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#4
Looks pretty rough. I may pass on that one. But if your husbands skills in body work and welding are up to par.... anything can be saved. But just off top of my head that car is less than $1,000.

Kevin

1971 Mach 1
408C Stroker
C4 w/3,000 stall
8.8" Rear w/3.73's
Disc brakes all way around.

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#5
From your information and the pics I would probably pass on this one. It appears rusty and it almost looks like someone painted it to hide the rust and now the rust is coming back.

Just to see if the car is anything special, you might ask the owner to only provide the first 5 digits of the VIN. Then post one here and we can tell you quick if it is anything worth extra consideration. The digits following are the consecutive unit number part of the VIN. They will just be six numerical characters.

Last bits of advice - buy all you can afford for a project. It will save many headaches and actually real money as you work to restore. And just because you spend money on a project does not necessarily equate to value if you try to sell. Know that a car that is rare and desirable will hold its value a lot better than one that is not. It costs more initially but will be more likely to appreciate over time. And they are just cool! Smile

Best of luck - sounds like your husband and boys are all very fortunate to have you in their lives!

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#6
If the VIN checks out okay that looks to be about a $1500 dollar car, there is going to be alot of hidden rust in that one in all likelihood. My car was in similar condition or maybe worse and 5 years later you would never know. Good luck with the purchase.

351w - Ford racing GT40X 178 cc aluminum heads - Ford racing(crane) 1.7 roller rockers - Comp Cams 280H magnum cam .544" / .544" lift - ARP fasteners - hedman longtubes - magnaflow exhaust with X pipe -  MSD digital 6al box - MSD coil - optima red top battery - tuff stuff 140 amp alternator - ported weiand stealth intake  - edelbrock 1406 600 carb  - march pullies and brackets - Be cool fan controller - derale electric fan - FMX trans - motive 4.11 gears - traction lok - competition engineering subframe connectors - lakewood traction bars.                                            










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#7
Not sure what your budget is but here are a couple that would be a much better starting point..

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/5970708084.html

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/5956927585.html

http://allentown.craigslist.org/cto/5955401965.html

I'm not sure what part of PA you are in so I just pulled up the Philadelphia craigslist.

'73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

'73 F code convertible. Bright red. Needs total restore. (IE HOT MESS)

- Jason
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#8
May be a good parts car if you have room to store it. I would not pay much for it either, but there are a lot of dreamers out there these days. Just guessing, but as it has a chrome bumper and a Mach1 hood over the original, I'm guessing it is a sportroof vin code 02. You're looking for 05 as the 3rd and 4th digits. If the 5th is an M, it was a 4V, an H was a 2V Cleveland engine. It could even have been a 302 in there, F I beleive. That one will be a lot of work, but guys on here have done worse from some of the pic posted!!
Good luck, but don't rush into it.
Geoff.
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#9
thanks guys. From the sounds of it, this one may be way over my head (unless I can get it for $100, as it sounds like she just wants it off her property). I will check the others out on craigslist. I'm in central PA, so philly is about 3 hours and pittsburgh is about 3 hours. (a drive, but doable).

Thanks for all your suggestions. If I get the VIN, I'll let you know what it says.
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#10
what's your thoughts on this one? http://www.cars-on-line.com/47233.html
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