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Pictures being copied to Google - why?
#1
After uploading a diagram awhile back, one that I probably should not have for copyright reasons and subsequently taken down by me, I was informed that this could be copied to Google images without consent. I had NO idea this was happening and did not find reference to it in site rules.This goes for ALL pictures we post I'm told. My question is WHY? We post pictures to help others on THIS forum and not for public viewing other than those who wish to access the forum. Some pictures may inadvertently give very personal information to hackers and the like. I'm very concerned. Do I/we stop posting helpful pictures?
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#2
Google grabs any photo that it comes across and adds it to Google images and the search engine.  It doesn't matter if you post to a forum, Facebook, Instagram, Photobucket...etc., Google grabs them all!   The only way to prevent this would be to lock down the forum but then we would lose all SEO and search engine rankings.  No one would be able to find us!  The exception on this forum is the VIP lounge and Staff forums...they are protected from web crawlers and photos and posts are somewhat secure...although, anyone with access can grab them and repost somewhere so you are back to square one!

If you take photos with your phone, you can turn geotracking OFF so personal info is not attached to your phone...the same would apply to newer digital wifi cameras but older digital cameras only contain info about the camera and settings.

I can add a disclaimer to the rules but in general, everyone should already know that anything you post on the internet becomes more or less public!

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#3
[ I had NO idea this was happening]
Google has several copies of the entire web content, catalogued, analysed, sorted and ready to make money on your back.
They don't send a mail asking if they can use a particular image. They send bots on every servers, read and cache every page and content at light speed. And that's just google.
Rule is simple, the moment you upload something anywhere online, its on the web and stays on the web. Deleting may work if you've uploaded
on some private server/cloud with low traffic and you deleted it almost right after and you got lucky no bots came in between.

[Do I/we stop posting helpful pictures?]
That's your call. And I don't think posting picts of your car can be used against you directly. Posting diagrams that are scans of a book page
is another story especially if the book is still on sale. If you draw the diagrams, no probs unless some patent troll would just happen to be the owner of the particular circuit that you have reproduced. I don't think there is any rocket science or still active patents hidden in our 7173 (somehow, I bet i'm wrong).

[ I'm very concerned.]
well, soon US will pass some net neutrality laws, and as they will be allowed to read packets (officially) passing by
to define speed/priority (and ask an extra fee if you want keep the speed of download you have now for anything).
Be sure Google will love that even more and they will not only have your upload, but also when you uploaded it, from where and to who
you uploaded it.

We're all concerned, but a low percentage seams to be aware of what's really hiding behind these rules...
and that's even a bigger concern. I have nothing to hide they say...

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(11-28-2017, 01:52 PM)rocketfoot Wrote: Google grabs any photo that it comes across and adds it to Google images and the search engine.  It doesn't matter if you post to a forum, Facebook, Instagram, Photobucket...etc., Google grabs them all!   The only way to prevent this would be to lock down the forum but then we would lose all SEO and search engine rankings.  No one would be able to find us!  The exception on this forum is the VIP lounge and Staff forums...they are protected from web crawlers and photos and posts are somewhat secure...although, anyone with access can grab them and repost somewhere so you are back to square one!

If you take photos with your phone, you can turn geotracking OFF so personal info is not attached to your phone...the same would apply to newer digital wifi cameras but older digital cameras only contain info about the camera and settings.

I can add a disclaimer to the rules but in general, everyone should already know that anything you post on the internet becomes more or less public!

 Thanks Rocketfoot.  Truly sick isn't it.  All I can say is " WHAT A WORLD WE LIVE IN, WHAT HAVE  WE BECOME!!?" Nothing is private and that's a shame. I for one will be far more concerned about what I share and with whom.
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(11-28-2017, 02:20 PM)Fabrice Wrote: [ I had NO idea this was happening]
Google has several copies of the entire web content, catalogued, analysed, sorted and ready to make money on your back.
They don't send a mail asking if they can use a particular image. They send bots on every servers, read and cache every page and content at light speed. And that's just google.
Rule is simple, the moment you upload something anywhere online, its on the web and stays on the web. Deleting may work if you've uploaded
on some private server/cloud with low traffic and you deleted it almost right after and you got lucky no bots came in between.

[Do I/we stop posting helpful pictures?]
That's your call. And I don't think posting picts of your car can be used against you directly. Posting diagrams that are scans of a book page
is another story especially if the book is still on sale. If you draw the diagrams, no probs unless some patent troll would just happen to be the owner of the particular circuit that you have reproduced. I don't think there is any rocket science or still active patents hidden in our 7173 (somehow, I bet i'm wrong).

[ I'm very concerned.]
well, soon US will pass some net neutrality laws, and as they will be allowed to read packets (officially) passing by
to define speed/priority (and ask an extra fee if you want keep the speed of download you have now for anything).
Be sure Google will love that even more and they will not only have your upload, but also when you uploaded it, from where and to who
you uploaded it.

We're all concerned, but a low percentage seams to be aware of what's really hiding behind these rules...
and that's even a bigger concern. I have nothing to hide they say...
 Good points Fabrice. Thanks for your input. We clearly all need to be very careful and I'm sure most of us more "senior" members, who grew up way before any of this internet stuff was invented and subsequently perverted, are as flabbergasted  as I. The site getting hacked is a clear example of the mentality of people in general today.
Oh so sad!!
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#6
I wonder what query would bring up Ms. Bank of Midlife...hmmmm....

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#7
the internet is a public space, throughout most of the world. think of it like letting a stranger into your living room, only, its just what you type and post, and that living room is open to every single person on the planet. That picture of your daughter on the mantle can now be used for anything. Its not a here or there thing, its the internet of things, put it up and its public property....................forever............period. Wanna rethink using facebook and telling people about yourself now? Or perhaps posting, or tagging everywhere you go?

not gonna search it there midlife, but I can guarantee you that image is used at least in porno advertising. but if u want to just google bank midlife and then images, extra words are for proper English, computers think in the most broad terms using the fewest words.

And remember just because those words are in the image, or the file name, that doesn't mean the image isnt used for many many other things. Think keywords, like midlife boobs, bank boobs, midlife breasts, etc etc etc.
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#8
Don't forget that we all also benefit from the way Google does things. Surely everybody on this forum uses its search engine frequently (or another engine that collects data in similar ways).

If you want something to remain private, then don't put it on the internet (and if you're very paranoid don't even put it on your connected computer).
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