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Parking lights 1973
#1
Hi,

as we have special regulations here in Germany to accomodate the headlights and parking lights to special function how do the parking lights operate in original condition? Do they lighten automatically with the light switch on or are they ever on? When they are on, are they a bit dimmer than when they are used as turn signal and flashing? Could anybody provide a video of the original appearance and function?

I want to perhaps try to bring back the original functions and legalize it through state approval...

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Tim

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#2
Yes, they are dual function. They serve as both a parking light and turn signal. They use dual filaments in the bulbs, with the smaller (dimmer) filament used for the park lights. The brighter filament is used on the turn signals.

When the light switch is pulled out to the first position the park lights and taillights are illuminated. When the headlight switch is pulled out all the way I believe the parking light portion remains on.



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#3
Don C is correct. I can grab a video and try to post it this weekend for you.

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#4
In the U.S. they use the amber colored bulbs and in Germany for the T-5 they used amber lens also. Another Germany requirement.
The parking lights also flash when the emergency flashers are on.
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#5
Thank you all for the good answers!

I think on my 70 F-250 truck it was the same...

German regulations say that on the front there have to be no yellow light on by driving. But especially for the Mach 1 I will try to get a go by the state approval here. Have a pair of clear lenses for the parking lights and I will bring back the original connections of the wiring harness and see what they will say...

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(12-31-2018, 03:17 AM)timachone Wrote: Thank you all for the good answers!

I think on my 70 F-250 truck it was the same...

German regulations say that on the front there have to be no yellow light on by driving. But especially for the Mach 1 I will try to get a go by the state approval here. Have a pair of clear lenses for the parking lights and I will bring back the original connections of the wiring harness and see what they will say...

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If you are a member of the First Mustang Club of Germany they can help and tell you what TUV (Inspection Place) can give you a "Ausnahme Genehmigung", a special approval, so you don't have to cut any wires on your headlight harness. The local TUV's don't do that because they are clueless, but there are some who specialize in vintage Mustangs, some 300 kilometers away. One of TUV's "local engineers" told me to cut my headlight harness to comply with German regulations, to just register my car and to drive it, and I happily declined to do so! So, I drove my car to the city of Siegen and their TUV approved everything including the original rims!

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(12-31-2018, 06:54 AM)NOT A T5 Wrote:
(12-31-2018, 03:17 AM)timachone Wrote: Thank you all for the good answers!

I think on my 70 F-250 truck it was the same...

German regulations say that on the front there have to be no yellow light on by driving. But especially for the Mach 1 I will try to get a go by the state approval here. Have a pair of clear lenses for the parking lights and I will bring back the original connections of the wiring harness and see what they will say...

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If you are a member of the First Mustang Club of Germany they can help and tell you what TUV (Inspection Place) can give you a "Ausnahme Genehmigung", a special approval, so you don't have to cut any wires on your headlight harness. The local TUV's don't do that because they are clueless, but there are some who specialize in vintage Mustangs, some 300 kilometers away. One of TUV's "local engineers" told me to cut my headlight harness to comply with German regulations, to just register my car and to drive it, and I happily declined to do so! So, I drove my car to the city of Siegen and their TUV approved everything including the original rims!
I know that situation - the same as here... The wires are already cut from the previous owners so I have to rewire them. The most think that when they do it all before they will get no problems. It is the easiest way. But you can get a 'Ausnahme-Genehmigung' for many things.

I got the tuv-requirements for vintage cars directly from a good engineer, it is a sheet with a lot of papers.

So 'Ausnahme-Genehmigungen' are possible for a lot of things on US-cars. You only have to know them and then go with this knowledge to a TUV-Station.

I will have a try :-)

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runninpony 
(12-31-2018, 08:27 AM)timachone Wrote:
(12-31-2018, 06:54 AM)NOT A T5 Wrote:
(12-31-2018, 03:17 AM)timachone Wrote: Thank you all for the good answers!

I think on my 70 F-250 truck it was the same...

German regulations say that on the front there have to be no yellow light on by driving. But especially for the Mach 1 I will try to get a go by the state approval here. Have a pair of clear lenses for the parking lights and I will bring back the original connections of the wiring harness and see what they will say...

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If you are a member of the First Mustang Club of Germany they can help and tell you what TUV (Inspection Place) can give you a "Ausnahme Genehmigung", a special approval, so you don't have to cut any wires on your headlight harness. The local TUV's don't do that because they are clueless, but there are some who specialize in vintage Mustangs, some 300 kilometers away. One of TUV's "local engineers" told me to cut my headlight harness to comply with German regulations, to just register my car and to drive it, and I happily declined to do so! So, I drove my car to the city of Siegen and their TUV approved everything including the original rims!
I know that situation - the same as here... The wires are already cut from the previous owners so I have to rewire them. The most think that when they do it all before they will get no problems. It is the easiest way. But you can get a 'Ausnahme-Genehmigung' for many things.

I got the tuv-requirements for vintage cars directly from a good engineer, it is a sheet with a lot of papers.

So 'Ausnahme-Genehmigungen' are possible for a lot of things on US-cars. You only have to know them and then go with this knowledge to a TUV-Station.

I will have a try :-)

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German Government also thinks with that many more exterior lights on a Mustang, compared to a German car, it is impossible to have all those lights running on 1 fuse alone (trying to tell you your circuit is overloaded), so they MAKE you add another inline fuse running from the fuse panel all the way back to the tail lights...they think in America we're driving in the DARK! I bet they got more loose now with regulations since there are more Classic American cars in Germany than there are in the U.S. LOL!

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#9
Hi,

I have an original T5 Q code that I recently imported from Germany to Austria.

Here is the front parking light/blinker.

It has the original orange lens and is only connected to the blinker, it is not allowed to have that light always on in front in orange.

The front side marker I connected with the blinker that was ok for the authorities.

The rear side marker either needs to be changed to orange lens and connected to the rear blinker or covered up as no reflective red lens can be on the sode of the car.

The rear blinker gave us quite some trouble. Needs to blink in orange so u have to add an orange light to the rear backup lights. Then the light will be orange in the middle (where the white area is) but the red part of the lens will also blink and seemingly u cant have a red blinker here anymore. Taping the red area is also not ok as the car needs to have a reflective red area in the back so you have to insert a little roll over the bulb in order to only make the white area of the lens blink with the orange bulb and not make the red area blink.

So now thats all working and I got my registration (TÜV) respectively (Einzelgenehmigung in Austria) on the 28th after the second try.

Hope that helps

Christopher



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