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Painting our resto mod
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Angel
Well our car is in the body shop. Our guy doesn't do paint due to all the requirements here in California. We have already decided we will go with a non stock color and scheme but have some uneasiness about the specifics and you all are my resources. I appreciate all the help I get here. on to the topic....
I orig figured corvette velocity yellow with with cadi sparkle black bumble bee stripes. Both paints are 3 stage with base, tint coat and then clear coat. concerned about velocity yellow coming out like the corvette I owned due to water borne paint req in Cali vs Bowling Green plant.

Now am considering house of kolor 2 stages I can have done in nevada and have hooked up with some guys who did a car on speed channels car warriors program. several logistical problems to taking car and returning from 150 miles away.

so what do you all think, anyone have experience with house of kolors custom painting. I like their kandy red or brandywine but would then need white bumble bees.

We have 2-3 months to decide and we just need more experienced input. Sorry this is so long it's the type of thing you usually would discuss with a group of friends we lack. Thanks
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The water borne paint is still too new, IMO, but I'm also not in Cali where it's being used. It may be fine or not, who knows? I'm sure it is the way of the future though.

The HOK colors are awesome. Can you get the Nevada shop to do your preferred yellow which sounds like your first choice?

Buy the AAA premium membership that has 200 mile towing included. Have them send a rollback to take the car to your shop in Nevada.

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Don65Stang;83622 Wrote:The water borne paint is still too new, IMO, but I'm also not in Cali where it's being used. It may be fine or not, who knows? I'm sure it is the way of the future though.

The HOK colors are awesome. Can you get the Nevada shop to do your preferred yellow which sounds like your first choice?

Buy the AAA premium membership that has 200 mile towing included. Have them send a rollback to take the car to your shop in Nevada.
Don
Thank you for wading through my long post then responding.
Truly the velocity yellow was the only "special" color I could come up with that I could specify and make a nice combination out of (I do like the yellow and black combos here) That yellow is so bright and shiny, very deep and just jumps out at you I think because of the 3 stages. I do like some of the HOK colors like kandy red , brandywine (over their silver base) and some lighter bright blues (not the dark blues, don't like the midnights) If I don't go with a light color I don't think I can make black stripes work and I prefer black to white or silver.
Now for AAA I have plus, been AAA since 1969 (I guess I'm dating myself) but I thought towing was 100 miles. That said before paint open tow could be okay (cleaning issues) but after paint I think I'd need closed trailer for fresher paint. Can't cover it(?) due to scuffing of new paint. Can't leave it open due to issues of getting stuff in my new paint.
The nevada shop has no problems shooting my color or HOK. Most of what they do are customs with HOK and one of their painters is used by HOK to do demonstration/instruction videos.
I am going to the first few days of Hot August Nights in Reno this week and will gain ideas from there. (6000 registered vehicles plus all the non reg because 6000 is the limit) I just need to see some lighter colors I love or see some stripes with colors other than white silver as alternatives to black.
I'm just in a pickle of what to do about the paint color and stripes color. We are planing skunk stripes on hood and trunk and 2013 boss 302 type stripes from front fenders down sides. Decisions decisions.

PS love Auburn. Looking forward to college football season. Our team (U of Nevada Reno Wolfpack) is playing perennial loser that is Roshelle's alma mater (Cal Berkeley) the first game in Cal's new memorial stadium. We're looking forward to that!!!
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As a painter for over 25 years & always staying current with latest technologies Here's the deal..You can't go wrong with H.O.K colors base etc. very good product...If you have any intention of driving the car forget the candy colors..If you get any damage or need a touch up requiring spraying..forget about matching it..Not sure if you have seen my 71 Camaro painted 2011 corvette yellow We did that car in RM base which you can still get..It requires a white base coat first then the yellow..then clear.. Your looking (my cost wholesale..Your gonna pay list) 320.00 for a gallon of white base then 611.00 for a gallon of the yellow (With jambing the car you need at least a gallon & half) Then a High solids clear (southern polyurethanes)http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/
reducers..hardeners..Bottom line close to $1800.00 JUST to buy the paint clear etc. when all is said & done to paint the car corvette yellow..
PPG is on the forefront of waterborne technology & if i was doing a car in waterborne it's the ONLY product I would use..Either way key aspect is the booth for optimum results you must have a BAKING down draft spray booth..Waterborne requires a change in the make up air flow required in the booth..So you need to make sure if you go waterborne that the shops booth has been modified set up for waterborne.

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Don65Stang;83622 Wrote:The water borne paint is still too new, IMO, but I'm also not in Cali where it's being used. It may be fine or not, who knows? I'm sure it is the way of the future though.

The HOK colors are awesome. Can you get the Nevada shop to do your preferred yellow which sounds like your first choice?

Buy the AAA premium membership that has 200 mile towing included. Have them send a rollback to take the car to your shop in Nevada.

I used my Premium AAA membership to have my 73 Vert towed to the body shop. The tow truck driver told me he was not supposed to tow under AAA for a car in my state of dis-assembly. I showed him my current Virginia license plates and he said he would tow it, but just wanted me to know it was not really a covered tow. I guess as long as he was making money it was OK with him. So it may depend on who your tow truck driver is if AAA is going to work.

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Qcode351mach;83629 Wrote:As a painter for over 25 years & always staying current with latest technologies Here's the deal..You can't go wrong with H.O.K colors base etc. very good product...If you have any intention of driving the car forget the candy colors..If you get any damage or need a touch up requiring spraying..forget about matching it..Not sure if you have seen my 71 Camaro painted 2011 corvette yellow We did that car in RM base which you can still get..It requires a white base coat first then the yellow..then clear.. Your looking (my cost wholesale..Your gonna pay list) 320.00 for a gallon of white base then 611.00 for a gallon of the yellow (With jambing the car you need at least a gallon & half) Then a High solids clear (southern polyurethanes)http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/
reducers..hardeners..Bottom line close to $1800.00 JUST to buy the paint clear etc. when all is said & done to paint the car corvette yellow..
PPG is on the forefront of waterborne technology & if i was doing a car in waterborne it's the ONLY product I would use..Either way key aspect is the booth for optimum results you must have a BAKING down draft spray booth..Waterborne requires a change in the make up air flow required in the booth..So you need to make sure if you go waterborne that the shops booth has been modified set up for waterborne.

My 71 camaro 2011 corvette yellow
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Thank you also for taking time to read and reply. I really value the asset we have here at 7173 mustangs.
I have concerns about waterborne as far as color replication, need for newer equipment and application methods and just plain holding up over time. Probably (and I stress probably) won't go with waterborne.
As far as use of car and knowing if I ever get body damage I will be sick about the damage and sick about any repair I'm unsure. I would plan to drive it around to local events cruises etc but limit that to within 150 miles of home. Longer distances I know I will need to trailer it and likely in a closed trailer (not sure how I feel about that but I can choose to stay close to home) I have an opportunity (or curse) of being able to choose having car painted in Cali (live near Sacramento now) or Reno area (where we will retire in less than 2 years)
If I go with Cali I will stick with corvette velocity yellow. If i go with nevada everything is open and the shop does HOK extensively. They can shoot whatever but that their usual.
Your experience as a painter is very helpful and I appreciate the benefit of your experience.
I'd love to see pics of your corvette yellow camaro. They didn't come thru. Can you try to repost or send to my email (email is my user name)
The thing I like about velocity yellow is how bright it is, how it just jumps out at you and how it just shines. You can't ignore that color you just gotta look. I owned a 2007 corvette convert in velocity yellow. Truly a special car and colorBig Grin
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My 71 Camaro 2011 Corvette Yellow
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Qcode351mach;83629 Wrote:As a painter for over 25 years & always staying current with latest technologies Here's the deal..You can't go wrong with H.O.K colors base etc. very good product...If you have any intention of driving the car forget the candy colors..If you get any damage or need a touch up requiring spraying..forget about matching it..Not sure if you have seen my 71 Camaro painted 2011 corvette yellow We did that car in RM base which you can still get..It requires a white base coat first then the yellow..then clear.. Your looking (my cost wholesale..Your gonna pay list) 320.00 for a gallon of white base then 611.00 for a gallon of the yellow (With jambing the car you need at least a gallon & half) Then a High solids clear (southern polyurethanes)http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/
reducers..hardeners..Bottom line close to $1800.00 JUST to buy the paint clear etc. when all is said & done to paint the car corvette yellow..
PPG is on the forefront of waterborne technology & if i was doing a car in waterborne it's the ONLY product I would use..Either way key aspect is the booth for optimum results you must have a BAKING down draft spray booth..Waterborne requires a change in the make up air flow required in the booth..So you need to make sure if you go waterborne that the shops booth has been modified set up for waterborne.

My 71 camaro 2011 corvette yellow
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WOW now theres yellow. Beautiful car. Beautiful paint. Thanks for sharingBig Grin
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jennyrn95630@yahoo.com;83634 Wrote:
Qcode351mach;83629 Wrote:As a painter for over 25 years & always staying current with latest technologies Here's the deal..You can't go wrong with H.O.K colors base etc. very good product...If you have any intention of driving the car forget the candy colors..If you get any damage or need a touch up requiring spraying..forget about matching it..Not sure if you have seen my 71 Camaro painted 2011 corvette yellow We did that car in RM base which you can still get..It requires a white base coat first then the yellow..then clear.. Your looking (my cost wholesale..Your gonna pay list) 320.00 for a gallon of white base then 611.00 for a gallon of the yellow (With jambing the car you need at least a gallon & half) Then a High solids clear (southern polyurethanes)http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/
reducers..hardeners..Bottom line close to $1800.00 JUST to buy the paint clear etc. when all is said & done to paint the car corvette yellow..
PPG is on the forefront of waterborne technology & if i was doing a car in waterborne it's the ONLY product I would use..Either way key aspect is the booth for optimum results you must have a BAKING down draft spray booth..Waterborne requires a change in the make up air flow required in the booth..So you need to make sure if you go waterborne that the shops booth has been modified set up for waterborne.

My 71 camaro 2011 corvette yellow
100_2587.JPG (831.74 KB)
WOW now theres yellow. Beautiful car. Beautiful paint. Thanks for sharingBig Grin
Yep..That car has taken 1st place in every show it's been in... the last one was out of 500 cars..No need to worry about waterborne with ppg
http://www.ppg.com/coatings/refinish/en/...fault.aspx

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Qcode351mach;83635 Wrote:
jennyrn95630@yahoo.com;83634 Wrote:
Qcode351mach;83629 Wrote:As a painter for over 25 years & always staying current with latest technologies Here's the deal..You can't go wrong with H.O.K colors base etc. very good product...If you have any intention of driving the car forget the candy colors..If you get any damage or need a touch up requiring spraying..forget about matching it..Not sure if you have seen my 71 Camaro painted 2011 corvette yellow We did that car in RM base which you can still get..It requires a white base coat first then the yellow..then clear.. Your looking (my cost wholesale..Your gonna pay list) 320.00 for a gallon of white base then 611.00 for a gallon of the yellow (With jambing the car you need at least a gallon & half) Then a High solids clear (southern polyurethanes)http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/
reducers..hardeners..Bottom line close to $1800.00 JUST to buy the paint clear etc. when all is said & done to paint the car corvette yellow..
PPG is on the forefront of waterborne technology & if i was doing a car in waterborne it's the ONLY product I would use..Either way key aspect is the booth for optimum results you must have a BAKING down draft spray booth..Waterborne requires a change in the make up air flow required in the booth..So you need to make sure if you go waterborne that the shops booth has been modified set up for waterborne.

My 71 camaro 2011 corvette yellow
100_2587.JPG (831.74 KB)
WOW now theres yellow. Beautiful car. Beautiful paint. Thanks for sharingBig Grin
Yep..That car has taken 1st place in every show it's been in... the last one was out of 500 cars..No need to worry about waterborne with ppg
http://www.ppg.com/coatings/refinish/en/...fault.aspx
So that is a waterborne??? PPG. It is so bright and deep and beautiful. I just have to repeat WOW!!SmileSmileSmile
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