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Paint...for those without the paint gene.
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Not being provided the paint gene myself, I am very envious of Q and his work. In fact, I think I should be given credit for his wonderful green Mustang as I think his car is showing some of my envy.

Actually, I would never take credit for any of Q's work...that would be sacrilegious. How lucky are we to have Q...and all the other technical guys here?

So, those of us without the paint gene who are going to rely on someone else to paint our car, what do we look for in a paint shop?

In the past, I would go to car shows and ask:

Who painted it?
What kind of base, prime, finish....?
How long has it been painted?
How many miles have you driven since it has been painted?

If I found a couple of cars done by the same shop with 5 years of age on the paint, driven 50k miles and the paint still looked awesome, that is where I would go.

But, it seems with all the ever changing paint regulations, these questions are not very pertinent because the POST PREP process/material for a paint job today is much different than 5 years ago.

So, #1, IMHO, and please tell me if I am wrong, the most important part of the paint job is the preparation. If a guy screws up the final coat, it is more easily fixed then if he screwed up the prep.

But, #2, what are the guidelines I can look for in whether my car has been properly prepped before final coat? What warning signs should I look for?

For example, how can I determine if the bondo repairs to the dings in my door or quarter panel are going to stick or chip off??

#3 How can I determine if the edges on my hood, trunk or doors will withstand the test of time?

#4 What can those of us without the paint gene do while the car is in our hands, to the most vulnerable areas of our cars? Do we just sand the crap out of them?

james

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#2
I have found that all 4 answers depend on how much beer one drinks before looking or working on their car.

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Don65Stang;83672 Wrote:I have found that all 4 answers depend on how much beer one drinks before looking or working on their car.

For the sake of argument, let us assume beer consumption at the reasonable but low rate of 1 beer per 45 minutes.

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#4
Then can't answer that!

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Wolverine;83674 Wrote:
Don65Stang;83672 Wrote:I have found that all 4 answers depend on how much beer one drinks before looking or working on their car.

For the sake of argument, let us assume beer consumption at the reasonable but low rate of 1 beer per 45 minutes.

That's far too slow... It would get warm! Tongue

Asking around for who does good work, and then seeing that work, works wonders.

Wolverine;83663 Wrote:For example, how can I determine if the bondo repairs to the dings in my door or quarter panel are going to stick or chip off??

Do they spread the plastic filler over paint? Do the rought the area up before application? Wipe it down with wax and grease remover? If you see them mixing mud on cardboard, find another shop. You don't mix on cardboard, because some cardboard is waxed, and that will cause adhesion issues.


Along those lines... Do they metal finish? if you are using filler for more than a skim coat, 1/8" fill max, then it will likely have issues, and they aren't that good at metal work.

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#6
I don't have time right now to answer fully & thanks for the compliments..But it really is the sum of all the process's... using quality materials..
If you want a feel for the process for a top notch job using quality materials then read this..I prefer to bake on all products in a downdraft baking spray booth..I'm not saying you can't achieve fantastic results other ways but if a baking booth is available it should used.

BTW..any quality shop should offer a lifetime warranty on their craftsmanship for as long as you own the car ..I did
http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/per...0paint.htm

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