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Opinions Please Considering this car
#1
Hi again. It's been a while since I posted. I'm looking at a car and would like opinions as to condition and value.
It's a 72 Mach 1 H code originally but now a 4 BBL. Standard interior that is original, Nice repaint in a non original green. AC car originally but now all removed.Heater core bypassed. Fold down rear seat. Original radio included but once had aftermarket stereo and now wires are cut. Rust free doors,fenders, quarters, cowl, floor,trunk pan, torques etc. Runs & drives nice & straight. New gas tank, lines & Holley carb. New rear brakes & some lines at the master to the prop valve. New exhaust from the headers back. tires look like no wear but I don't know the age.
Please let me know what you see and think about the car and it's value.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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#2
I looks like it has a leak in the trim along the right side of the roof or the rear side window, water standing on the inside panel. The NASA hood might not be original since you got hood locks with the Argent hood treatment. You could get the NASA hood without the Argent or Black on the hood but you got hood locks if you go the paint.
You can get the simple marti for $18.00 that would tell you how the car was. You said it was an H code check for the VIN# to be stamped into the block right below the head on the drivers side. Difficult to see but if not original numbers matching hurts the price.
I don't think you said a price.
Do you get the parts for the air with the car?
It was a pretty bare bones car looks like are you sure it was a Mach 1?
63R on door tag or 05 in Vin# makes it a Mach 1.
63D on door tag or 02 in the Vin# makes it a Sportsroof.
What color should it be? That hurts when you go to sell but if you want the green that is up to you.
With the side trim that separates the argent from the green there should be no side stripe just the Mach 1 verbiage on the front fender.
I think there should also be a power steering cooler when you have the wide radiator and air cond..
With color change and bare bones and mods to engine I don't see paying over $4,000 - $4,500 unless it is just what you want. That is saying that the paint is good and engine needs no work and the VIN and engine numbers match. The transmission also has the VIN stamped on it and should match.
I am a picky person and original always gets more bucks than modified to the high end buyer.
Do your searching this is the time of year to buy it is a buyers market in December. There are always lots of 71 - 73 cars on the market.
David


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David
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#3
Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs;249656 Wrote:I looks like it has a leak in the trim along the right side of the roof or the rear side window, water standing on the inside panel. YES THE 1/4 window weatherstripping is old and leaks, they had just washed the car.The NASA hood might not be original since you got hood locks with the Argent hood treatment. You could get the NASA hood without the Argent or Black on the hood but you got hood locks if you go the paint. I'm not sure about the hood but for sure the repaint may not match the original.
You can get the simple marti for $18.00 that would tell you how the car was. You said it was an H code check for the VIN# to be stamped into the block right below the head on the drivers side. Difficult to see but if not original numbers matching hurts the price. Said to be numbers matching rebuilt motor . I would confirm before purchase.
I don't think you said a price. I'm withholding the asking price for now to see what others estimate the value.
Do you get the parts for the air with the car?
It was a pretty bare bones car looks like are you sure it was a Mach 1?
63R on door tag or 05 in Vin# makes it a Mach 1. Yes 63R on door and 5 in VIN.
63D on door tag or 02 in the Vin# makes it a Sportsroof.
What color should it be? That hurts when you go to sell but if you want the green that is up to you. 4Q paint(green) and AR trim(standard green)
With the side trim that separates the argent from the green there should be no side stripe just the Mach 1 verbiage on the front fender.

I think there should also be a power steering cooler when you have the wide radiator and air cond..
With color change and bare bones and mods to engine I don't see paying over $4,000 - $4,500 unless it is just what you want. That is saying that the paint is good and engine needs no work and the VIN and engine numbers match. The transmission also has the VIN stamped on it and should match.
I am a picky person and original always gets more bucks than modified to the high end buyer.
Do your searching this is the time of year to buy it is a buyers market in December. There are always lots of 71 - 73 cars on the market.
David
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#4
Hello From Sarnia

Well my two cent would be 7k to 10k
If it is truly rust free, which i highly doubt if it is a Canadian car
Look to see if it had the pan replaced,
What shape the torque boxes and rail
Check the cowl ends and the base of the spring towers

The body look nice

Needs a bit of work

I could see spending another 5k on the car after to get it looking real nice so at that point your looking 13-15K which is tough to get back out of these cars

I think if you like it and want to drive the shit of of it then go for it
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M Beauchamp;249668 Wrote:Hello From Sarnia

Well my two cent would be 7k to 10k
If it is truly rust free, which i highly doubt if it is a canadian car
Look to see if it had the pan replaced, how the torq
The car is in Florida and was originally from Tennesee. Floor pans and torque boxes are rust free and look original.
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#6
Chris,

I think you need to let everyone know what your looking for as that would help out as far as their input...original car vs modified, one 95% done, driver vs higher end, one to restore etc.

Couple quick points about this car...never been a fan of the green interior and I don't think many others are when you go to sell. If it was an all original special car it wouldn't matter so much. Car is pretty short on options and the key one A/C is missing, has standard door panels, no console, no gauge package, engine modified what else.

Another good way to determine value is to look on ebay at completed auctions. Takes some time but will give you a real good sense of what these are really worth with pictures and description.

Again, if we know precisely what your looking for we can help you out more.

Jeff
1972 Q Code Convertible
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jeff8877;249672 Wrote:Chris,

I think you need to let everyone know what your looking for as that would help out as far as their input...original car vs modified, one 95% done, driver vs higher end, one to restore etc.

Couple quick points about this car...never been a fan of the green interior and I don't think many others are when you go to sell. If it was an all original special car it wouldn't matter so much. Car is pretty short on options and the key one A/C is missing, has standard door panels, no console, no gauge package, engine modified what else.

Another good way to determine value is to look on ebay at completed auctions. Takes some time but will give you a real good sense of what these are really worth with pictures and description.

Again, if we know precisely what your looking for we can help you out more.
Im all about originality if possible. What drew me to this car is the paint job. It's pretty good although it could use a wet sand and polish to be real nice. The body is from what I can tell rust free. Looking into the wheelwells and underneath the car it all looks original and sans rust. Cowl, torques, shock towers are all good, no bondo in the quarters, doors or fenders.
I completely missed the guage package not being there.
My thoughts were to update the interior with deluxe seats in white with silver trim, white deluxe door panels with green carpet, white 1/4 panel trim and keep the carpet, dash pad and headliner/sunvisors green. I'm not totally in love with green either so I thought that would be one way to brighten up the interior. Possibly update to guage package and full console and maybe even power windows and a rim blow steering wheel. I would also reinstall the A/C system of course.
BTW are the rear 1/4 windows supposed to roll down? The trim panels have no cutouts for crank handles and there are no handles to crank them down.
What I am looking for is as many opinons on the condition of the car as possible and what the expert eyes may see that I don't. Ulimately I would like to have a very good quality driver not a trailer queen.
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#8
Chris
The rear 1/4 windows are fixed , a lot of guys swap out to make them operational

If this is a Rust Free Southern car then you have a good starting point

The items you listed to update the interior can be easily 3k

I think this would make a real nice Summer Driver at the right price

I looked on Kijiji and there are 3 Mach1 in the 20K (Can$) range in ontario that look like guys have a bunch more money into than the green car. and i would think 15k Can$ would get any of them, which is fair considering the guys could easily have 25K into them.

So you can use the comments your getting from members to help you convince the owner his car only worth 7-8 grand then dress it up and you will have a nice car

Onc of the members has a rule of thumb for estimating restorations
"What ever you think it will cost x3 will get you close"

I know finding a nice rust free car in Ontario is almost non exist, so i can appreciate a nice southern car.

Also when i start my journey i was thinking say original keep the value in the car.

Now i could care less, I want it to end up how i want it and i keep changing my mind as i go. but that's because i just want to drive the car

Good luck and keep us posted on your journey
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#9
Wow, TN, Florida --this car is getting around. I see what appears to be the same car on Craigslist ad from Georgia.

http://columbusga.craigslist.org/cto/5358412552.html

1971 Mustang
Grabber Lime with black deluxe interior
302 engine with C-4 transmission and 9" rear end with 3.50 gears
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Chris Womack;249679 Wrote:Wow, TN, Florida --this car is getting around. I see what appears to be the same car on Craigslist ad from Georgia.

http://columbusga.craigslist.org/cto/5358412552.html

Yes I saw that car too. The upholstery is ripped and if you look at the shot of the engine the clearcoat is peeling on the pass fender top. It doesn't have the folding rear seat. I considered going to look at that car but it's a 6 hr drive from where I am now and it may be a bondo buggy for all I know.
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