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New laws in the UK for classic cars
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(03-06-2019, 09:17 AM)Stanglover Wrote: Steve, while most over this side of the pond won't understand what an M.O.T. is, I do. I sometimes wish it was mandatory here too as there are junkers all over the place that should not be on the road. In Ontario, we only "safety check" vehicles when they change ownership. Other than that, it's up to the owner to keep it road worthy. We do pay a road tax in the form of a yearly "donation" to the government. We also have to pay 13% tax on the sales value each time a vehicle changes hands. Classic vehicles are supposed to be appraised for value and taxed accordingly. I guess that's because everybody claimed their classic was only worth 500 bucks!!
As for classic cars, that starts at 25 years, but we get no breaks tax wise although there are Historic Car licence plates that have a reduced yearly tax cost. These come with restrictions though and the car can only (legally) be driven to and from car shows, mechanics or in parades. If in an accident with these plates and your not conforming to the law, the insurance will likely be void. I pay the full tax so I can drive whenever I want to within the limits of my Haggarty insurance.
The US members likely have a whole different set of rules to follow depending on what State they live in.
Geoff.

I have always seen it referred to as MOT (Ministry of Transportation) certificate here in Ontario when I have taken my car's in to be certified. Yes, "safety" is also a street name used for the certification...
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#12
(03-06-2019, 12:24 PM)7173Vert Wrote:
(03-06-2019, 09:17 AM)Stanglover Wrote: Steve, while most over this side of the pond won't understand what an M.O.T. is, I do. I sometimes wish it was mandatory here too as there are junkers all over the place that should not be on the road. In Ontario, we only "safety check" vehicles when they change ownership. Other than that, it's up to the owner to keep it road worthy. We do pay a road tax in the form of a yearly "donation" to the government. We also have to pay 13% tax on the sales value each time a vehicle changes hands. Classic vehicles are supposed to be appraised for value and taxed accordingly. I guess that's because everybody claimed their classic was only worth 500 bucks!!
As for classic cars, that starts at 25 years, but we get no breaks tax wise although there are Historic Car licence plates that have a reduced yearly tax cost. These come with restrictions though and the car can only (legally) be driven to and from car shows, mechanics or in parades. If in an accident with these plates and your not conforming to the law, the insurance will likely be void. I pay the full tax so I can drive whenever I want to within the limits of my Haggarty insurance.
The US members likely have a whole different set of rules to follow depending on what State they live in.
Geoff.

I have always seen it referred to as MOT (Ministry of Transportation) certificate here in Ontario when I have taken my car's in to be certified. Yes, "safety" is also a street name used for the certification...
 True, but Safety Check is the more common name in Ontario. I meant that perhaps the US members did not relate to that term as we do.

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#13
I’m sure glad I live in Michigan. No inspection B.S. at all. About the only kind of restrictions that I know of are if you get the historical plates.

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#14
(03-06-2019, 10:43 AM)Stanglover Wrote:
(03-06-2019, 10:26 AM)Pegleg Wrote:
(03-06-2019, 10:01 AM)Stanglover Wrote: F'n camera's are everywhere!! Some of the OPP cars have LPR's here too. Police can enter a number into an onboard computer and get the full info on that vehicle and likewise, can impound the vehicle at the owners expense. My son does it all the time!!

The police here dont have to punch any numbers in. Their computer attached to camera bleeps and goes red if there are any infringements. The database also has the names of known criminals and what cars they drive making it easier to follow criminals in police cars that are not marked up as police cars

 Pretty much likewise here, but not all car have that tech.
We can't get away with anything any more!!!! Big Brother's watching.

 As a side to this, that's not always a bad thing. A few years ago, about 2010 if I remember, I was on the M25 when the car blew a head gasket in stop-and-go traffic. I managed to get the car to the shoulder close to an overpass and an emergency phone. Next thing, the phone rang. Kind of startled, I answered it. The lady said she can see me on camera from that bridge. She told me to stand well away from the car and as it was about to rain, she had someone from traffic control stop by with a poncho. Then she put me through to my brother to verify the towing insurance and arranged for the RAC to pick the car up and transport the car and me back 120+ miles to my brothers house. That's saved my ass and I was very thankful for "Big Brother" that day.

You lost me at head gasket.  

Mighty car mods have spoiled me.  I can’t read head gasket without saying it like them.  Smile

Glad everything worked out for you.
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#15
I think in California the cutoff is 1975.
No inspections or anything, just insurance.

mike

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#16
(03-06-2019, 07:50 PM)rcadd1ct Wrote: You lost me at head gasket.  

Mighty car mods have spoiled me.  I can’t read head gasket without saying it like them.  Smile

Glad everything worked out for you.
Not sure what you mean, but in the UK, Motorways, Freeways to you, have (or had back then) an emergency phone on a post every mile or so. Not everybody has cell phones!! I did not have a cell phone and still don't.

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#17
Connecticut used to have a pretty thorough safety inspection regiment before issuing permanent registration plates, but no annual requirements. It had morphed into VIN verification, lights and safety equipment check, visual undercar inspection on a lift and a dynamic brake test. The brake test did find a leaking axle seal for me on my old 71 sportsroof. All that went by the wayside ten or so years ago for some reason, not sure if it was cost cutting or too many people were failing and it was deemed discriminatory to lower incomes. Either way, it definitely resulted in a bunch of junkers driving around. The inspection now is only a VIN verification and lights check for out of state vehicles.

I wish they would have an annual inspection, since the crap they spray on the roads now eats cars alive. Having someone look underneath your car might just save your life if you're one of those that limits their maintenance to adding oil and gas as needed.


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#18
(03-07-2019, 01:03 PM)Hemikiller Wrote:  Either way, it definitely resulted in a bunch of junkers driving around.

I've seen the before and after implementation, it changed the car park significantly. I can't even remember the last time I saw a car looking really bad (rust wise), smoking crazy, dribbling front wheels for bad shocks or even cars visibly going left or right when its time to stop.
This control is the only extra I need to pay for having a car that I support.


Go to same inspection address for my cars for years now. I get an honest and fair inspection vs the many other places I tried before trying to force services on you, always finding only the stuffs they could replace in house. I hate it when they find something as it means come back again next week, but so far they've always been honest.

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(03-07-2019, 02:31 PM)Fabrice Wrote:
(03-07-2019, 01:03 PM)Hemikiller Wrote:  Either way, it definitely resulted in a bunch of junkers driving around.

I've seen the before and after implementation, it changed the car park significantly. I can't even remember the last time I saw a car looking really bad (rust wise), smoking crazy, dribbling front wheels for bad shocks or even cars visibly going left or right when its time to stop.
This control is the only extra I need to pay for having a car that I support.


Go to same inspection address for my cars for years now. I get an honest and fair inspection vs the many other places I tried before trying to force services on you, always finding only the stuffs they could replace in house. I hate it when they find something as it means come back again next week, but so far they've always been honest.

Steve
1971 Grandé
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