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New cam for my 408.
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(05-19-2017, 06:59 AM)EBSTANG Wrote:
(05-19-2017, 06:46 AM)turtle5353 Wrote: Thanks for all the replies fellas.

Eric, I hope it runs well!! Big Grin

Chuck, The 107 lobe was recommended by the idiot that built my heads, Tim Barnett. Then I had all the troubles with everything in the heads. The cam is the last thing left that he recommended. So I am starting over again. I listed my engine specs at the end of my first post. I have a set of aluminum AFD 4vs heads.

MeZapU, I will check out flowtech and see what they offer. Thanks.

Eric, I was following your thread on your motor. Your definitely doing some nice upgrades. At this point I really don't want to tear the motor completely down. Im just gonna swap the cam and go from there. Im sure I will have the motor out again in the near future! Haha  Im getting pretty good at it! Can have it out in hour and half max.

Tommy,
I originally had the comp hydraulic roller rockers, had 3 collapse in a row and sent them all back to comp..... They are supposed to be refunding me but my machine shop is still fighting with them for the last 6-7 months. The comp lifters are absolute garbage now. I ordered a new set of morels and they just showed up yesterday! They look really nice! We will see how they hold up.
I hope yours works out well for you this time too!  I know we've both been down this road a few times.

Wow!... 1 1/2 hours  I could have you drive from western PA to eastern PA, pull my engine and I think you might beat my mechanic!   Shootself
Yeah I hope all goes well.  Pulling the motor helps when you have a lift and an extra set of hands. Me and my buddy will be pulling it out tonight.
Kevin

1971 Mach 1
408C Stroker
C4 w/3,000 stall
8.8" Rear w/3.73's
Disc brakes all way around.

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#12
Consider a good solid roller lifter cam and setting up the valvetrain with a rocker arm stud girdle. A milder custom grind might be in order, but once set up, you would likely only need to go through and adjust lash every 7500 miles.
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#13
Why not contact Jones cams or Bullet and get a custom cam that fits your needs. Just tell them your intended use. I would have no problem getting a cam and springs of these guy's and go with their recommendations on lifters. Crane lifters are a nice lower price option or crower for peace of mind,everything else seems to be luck of the draw these day's
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#14
A few things I've learned from ordering custom camshafts. What you ask for is what you get. If you want something that has a rowdy demeanor and powerband from 2500-7000 then you will get exactly that. It will likely not have very good street manners below 2500, so if cruising rpms are 2200, be aware. But if you want it to be for the track, that thing will absolutely zing from 2500-7000rpms. On my last cam I asked for it to perform with power brakes and have the most power under the curve to be a good street engine and he hit the nail on the head. I couldn't be happier. Ed is also a busy man. It's racing season and it may take him a day or two to respond. I have sent 25-30 emails back and forth nailing down a camshaft, valvespring, pushrod combination in the past. It all needs to match. Usually he will not sell you the pushrods until after the cam and lifters are installed and you measure for proper length. He is not like a big camshaft company that can afford to sell mediocre and "safe" grinds. He pushes the limits. Each combination is unique and at the end of the day his name and reputation is on the line. Be prepared to pay a bit more for his knowledge, but that almost always ends up with a better running engine that meets or exceeds your expectations in the end.
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(05-19-2017, 07:53 PM)Luke Wrote: Why not contact Jones cams or Bullet and get a custom cam that fits your needs. Just tell them your intended use. I would have no problem getting a cam and springs of these guy's and go with their recommendations on lifters. Crane lifters are a nice lower price option or crower for peace of mind,everything else seems to be luck of the draw these day's

Another for Jones cams. Contact Mike as he really knows his stuff and some of his cams have produced some outstanding results, even surprising the engine builders themselves, check him out here    http://jonescams.com/
Bullet is also another good source or also as has been stated Brent at Lykins motorsports is another great source. If you don't want to splash out on a custom grind, I've had some really good results with Howard's cams for OTS stuff.

 As for lifters all of the budget street series hydraulic roller lifters including, Comp, Lunati, Howard's, etc are all made by Morel but overseas. It's only their high dollar range of hydraulic roller lifters that are only made in the US. Been using Crane Hydraulic roller lifters for years without any dramas. Both Crane and Crower and others are made by the company that now owns Jonson lifters and like had been said no real problems with either of those brands over the years.
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I was able to get the motor out last night. I talked to bullet and comp so far and both had some very similar reconmendations. I will probably throw the comp cam in and see how it runs. Easy enough to swap if I don't like it! lol.
Kevin

1971 Mach 1
408C Stroker
C4 w/3,000 stall
8.8" Rear w/3.73's
Disc brakes all way around.

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#17
Crane also has some really good SFT grinds for clevos. Crane solids like f246 or f268 have been the go to cam for stout streeters here for year's. However the grinds are getting old now and the same goes with bullet to a very small degree. That's why I would be talking to Jones or Lykins first

4Vforever is absolutely correct about cheaper variants of morel being made in China.
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#18
Well that's not what I wanted to hear. I just bought a set of morels this week.
Kevin

1971 Mach 1
408C Stroker
C4 w/3,000 stall
8.8" Rear w/3.73's
Disc brakes all way around.

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Can you send them back and get crane's? Jesel and crower do tool steel roller's but probably a bit of overkill unless you are like me,  I can only afford to build these things once I sure as shit can't afford to do it twice. Buy once cry once is how I build my gear
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Well I got all my parts in and was able to get the cam swapped and new lifters in yesterday. Thanks for all the input fellas. I did end up going with a custom grind  from comp.  very similar to what I posted in my first post. With just a small change in duration. I put in a set of morel hydraulic lifters. I'm hoping to get time Sunday to drop the motor back in. If my sons go kart race gets cancelled because of rain I will get the motor back in. I will let you guys know how it behaves. 
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Kevin

1971 Mach 1
408C Stroker
C4 w/3,000 stall
8.8" Rear w/3.73's
Disc brakes all way around.

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