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Need new Starter
#1
Hello,
I am new to the whole classic car world. After saving my whole teaching career for a classic, I fell in love with a '73 Mustang Convertible 351w 3 speed automatic that was mostly restored and went all in to get the beauty, back in January. I am also blessed with a friend who is always rebuilding a car, so he has been helping me out since my last car I worked on was in college ('84 Plymouth Duster).  

My question:
I need a new starter. I see some remanufactured from places like O'Reilly's and such places for less that $70. I also see some like Powermaster and other on websites for around $290. Some say it doesn't matter and don't over pay, other say to get the better one. After talking to some people I hear mixed feeling about going either way, so I thought I would come here with people that actually own a Mustang for your all's opinion. 

Any help and input would be appreciated. 

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John 
Winter Garden, Florida
1973 Mustang Convertible 
"Do or do not; there is no try."
-Master Yoda
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#2
Be sure of what motor you have. They never were offered with a 351w in 71-73. They were offered with 302w and 351c. Nice looking ride.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

- Jason


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#3
Welcome to the forum from Idaho. Your car will turn some heads :-)

As 73 pony says.......make sure its a 351 Windsor and  not a Cleveland. 
My 71 mach had a engine swap when I bought it. It had a 351 Windsor in it. Took me forever to figure that out. I kept buying parts and they wouldnt fit. Felt so damn stupid when I returned them to Orielys saying they dont fit :-) I finally figured it out by the water pump, valve cover bolts and deck height of the heads.

By the way the engine gauge harness won't fit right either. Mine was all hacked up to make it fit a Windsor.

Starter question......... Paying more usually means they are better. Especially the high torque starters.  If its a stock engine and not modified with higher compression?  you can go with the cheaper mid range unit.
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#4
If you buy starter from auto parts store you may be disappointed, typically foreign products. If you have originally equipped starter then find a shop to rebuild it. The cost will be less and you will have better part.

Not long ago my alternator failed, I inspected part available at local auto parts store and discovered it was produced in china -- casting looked terrible. I found a local shop to repair my OEM part.

1971 Mustang
Grabber Lime with black deluxe interior
302 engine with C-4 transmission and 9" rear end with 3.50 gears
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runninpony 
Welcome from Omaha!

71-73 Mustangs never die, they just go faster!
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#6
Welcome from west Michigan. I love your car, from one yellow convertible guy to another.

I've used both types of starters with much success. You don't need to spend the money on a powermaster. for most cruiser/driver applications the standard Bendix works great. Most parts stores are very good at standing behind their stuff. I tend to like NAPA it seems to be a bit better quality.

Jeff T.

When I die I want to die like grandpa, peacefully in my sleep... not screaming, like his passengers.
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#7
Welcome to the Forum from North Carolina. It has already been mentioned that 71 - 73 mustangs did not come with a 351 Windsor engine only the 351 Cleveland. There were Mustangs made in Mexico with the 351 Windsor but no convertibles built there. 
Now you will have to go find the yellow Mustang group and join there also, lol.


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David
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#8
Welcome from northern California.

I got a high torque starter from Summit.
Would go through at least one starter per year.
Your standard starter could not handle the
compression of my Cleveland.

mike

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#9
Thanks for all the help and the welcome to the site. I was excited to find this forum.

When I bought the car the paperwork said it was a 351w and I took it for granted. I ran the VIN last night and it said it should have a 6 cyl. So it looks like it it did have an engine swap long ago since it doesn't look recent at all After lots of googling it looks to be a 351c that was placed in it.

Thanks for the heads up as I am learning. After teaching and coaching so long you get very comfortable and always seem to know what is going on- this is a rare occasion to be having to learning so much and feeling a little lost! it is humbling...but fun!

i am glad to have somewhere to come for advice and help. Thanks all!

John
Winter Garden, Florida

John 
Winter Garden, Florida
1973 Mustang Convertible 
"Do or do not; there is no try."
-Master Yoda
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#10
Hello jep1701,
Don't be concerned with not knowing exactly what engine is in your car. Unless you are the original owner you have no idea what has happened to your vehicle. And until your vert has had a couple of drinks it's not going to tell you. The 351W almost disappeared from the land after the 351C came out in 1970. After the last of the 335 engines (351M, 400) was installed in the E and F series trucks in '82, the 351W once again was the midsize go-to engine. So with such a plentiful and cheap supply of 351W engines to choose from, you can bet plenty of them were transplanted in many different vehicles.
 There are several ways to check the difference between the two engines. I like to keep it simple since some people here have had no previous Ford experience. And...you can do this with your hands in your pockets. Count the valve cover bolts, the 351C has 8 bolts and the 351W has 6. The mounting bolts on the 351C fuel pump are vertical while the bolts on the 351W pump are horizontal.

And...by the way....Hello and welcome to your new Mustang home!

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Steve

No Officer...I really don't know how fast I was going, my speedometer stopped at 140!
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