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Wrench 
I just recently pulled the starter off my 71 Grandé Coupe. 
(351 Cleveland C4 Tran)
I noticed the starter has a silinoid on it and has to be wired differently than the stock one. I can’t seem to figure out where the Neutral Safety Switch is supposed to be wired to. 

Should it go to the starter relay on the side wall or should it go to the starter silinoid on the starter?
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#2
perhaps pictures would be a good idea, its not very clear what you are dealing with. And its solenoid. Almost sounds like you have the wrong starter.
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#3
Well it’s an aftermarket starter. I bought the one designed to work for my car and it has been for years but the starter gave out and I’m sending it to repair. I just want to make sure it was wired right since the wire for the neutral safety switch was connected to the starters silinoid and not the starter relay on the side panel. I’ll get pictures.
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This is what I’m looking at http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/23-t...ics/218409
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#5
Starters have been covered several times in this forum. Download the PDF file in post #26 in this thread, it should help you.
https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-star...#pid258952

You shouldn't have to worry about the neutral safety switch, it should already be wired in between the ignition switch and the "S" terminal on the solenoid.

Post #7 in this thread has a wiring diagram.
https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-star...#pid234909



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(01-16-2018, 12:54 PM)Don C Wrote: [Image: B0_F6_BB45_E973_4_C4_C_B422_EEE2_F05_AB131.jpg]

Starters have been covered several times in this forum. Download the PDF file in post #26 in this thread, it should help you.
https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-star...#pid258952

You shouldn't have to worry about the neutral safety switch, it should already be wired in between the ignition switch and the "S" terminal on the solenoid.

Post #7 in this thread has a wiring diagram.
https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-star...#pid234909

Ok so I figured out how to wire the starter thanks to these links. Very helpful. 

Now I have another problem. 

The way my starter was wired before (not done by me) 
There is a red wire with a small blue line, that wire was hooked up to the back of the starter silinoid like so ??
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Now I believe that that wire comes from the transmission Neutral safety switch. But I’m not sure. When I followed it it’s lead me to the transmission but I might of got lost while following it.
I think it belongs on the S terminal on the starter relay. But I really don’t know.
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#8
Red w/lt blue tripe belongs on the small forward "S" terminal of the fender apron mounted starter solenoid. That is what energizes the starter solenoid when you turn the key to "start". It runs through the NSS, but not directly from the NSS to the solenoid, it's part of the harness that runs around the front of the engine compartment.

[Image: 72MUST.jpg]

The way the PMGR starters are wired in the images is in order to not have to butcher your factory harness. The factory solenoid functions as original, but instead of it supplying power to the starter motor, it energizes the solenoid on the starter. The starter solenoid will have full time battery power with a cable from the front lug of the factory solenoid.


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Thanks a lot guys lots of help. This starter taking a dump on me has gave me a fever for restoring my car. I’ve gone down the rabbit hole! Here we go!
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You wire the Power to the PMGR Starter directly from the battery.  The Trigger wire goes from where the old style started power cable mounted to the small solenoid on top of the starter.  In the diagram below the Yellow wire is the trigger wire and the red wire is the power wire.

The fuse placement is wrong in this picture, it should be between the alternator and the solenoid.  This is only for when you install new larger gauge wire and are not using the stock fuseable link alternator power wire.

[Image: single_battery_circuit.jpg]
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