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mickey thompson poor wet performance 255/60/r15
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Anyone here had experience with General Grabbers?

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(05-04-2019, 11:47 AM)Stanglover Wrote: To be honest, I was not going to chime in on this one, but as I too am suffering from old. hard rubber, 13 year old BFG's on my Mach, I decided to add my 2 cents worth.

Just to be clear I only got this car on my doorstep Nov last year -- so I'm still finding shit out

I have learned that my Mickey's could be more than 6 years old - so your clue to poor rubber aging could have some baring 
-- I found receipt for tires in scraps of paperwork with the car when I bought him dated  11th Oct 2013  Undecided  OMFG !

I also read that the producers of Mickey's  specialized in truck tires  Undecided 

I'm narrowing down to BF Goodrich or General's ... what do you think guys ?

Sorry but I cant find Avon Tyre's CR6ZZ  available for 15" rims ... and I'm not replacing rims; because if it took $20 to go around the world right now I couldn't get out of sight.

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(05-05-2019, 06:30 AM)1sostatic Wrote:
(05-04-2019, 11:47 AM)Stanglover Wrote: To be honest, I was not going to chime in on this one, but as I too am suffering from old. hard rubber, 13 year old BFG's on my Mach, I decided to add my 2 cents worth.

Just to be clear I only got this car on my doorstep Nov last year -- so I'm still finding shit out

I have learned that my Mickey's could be more than 6 years old - so your clue to poor rubber aging could have some baring 
-- I found receipt for tires in scraps of paperwork with the car when I bought him dated  11th Oct 2013  Undecided  OMFG !

I also read that the producers of Mickey's  specialized in truck tires  Undecided 

I'm narrowing down to BF Goodrich or General's ... what do you think guys ?

Sorry but I cant find Avon Tyre's CR6ZZ  available for 15" rims ... and I'm not replacing rims; because if it took $20 to go around the world right now I couldn't get out of sight.

  I can't seem to find it right now, but Carolina_M_M posted a link to the US tire manufactures and their subsidiaries in a previous post. I printed it off.
 Mickey's and Avon are Cooper tires. BFG are Michelin, but I don't see General Tire. Personally, I'd just stick with the one's that are absolutely the most popular, BFG Radial T/A's.
If I find that link, I'll edit this.
Geoff.

Here you go.
https://www.utires.com/articles/tires-ma...gn-brands/

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#24
Easy enough to tell how old the tires are, check the date codes
https://www.tirebuyer.com/education/how-...your-tires



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(05-05-2019, 06:30 AM)1sostatic Wrote:
(05-04-2019, 11:47 AM)Stanglover Wrote: To be honest, I was not going to chime in on this one, but as I too am suffering from old. hard rubber, 13 year old BFG's on my Mach, I decided to add my 2 cents worth.

Just to be clear I only got this car on my doorstep Nov last year -- so I'm still finding shit out

I have learned that my Mickey's could be more than 6 years old - so your clue to poor rubber aging could have some baring 
-- I found receipt for tires in scraps of paperwork with the car when I bought him dated  11th Oct 2013  Undecided  OMFG !

I also read that the producers of Mickey's  specialized in truck tires  Undecided 

Mickey Thompson was into all sorts of racing back in the day - drag racing, Off-Road racing, Indy cars, land speed record, etc.  I don't recall which came first, but they produce not only off road ties, but racing tires as well.  The Sportsman series fat drag tires have been around since the '60s, as well as the Baja Belted series off road tires.  Their street tires are a fairly new thing, only the last 15-20 years or so.

All tires have a shelf life because of the rubber compounds and vulcanizing process - they go bad with time.  It's not so much of a problem if you're talking about having some tires on show cars or occasional low-medium speed driving (cruising), but when you need to run at speed and for periods of time, safety is an issue with older tires.

For instance, I have a 1980 Jeep with some Super Swampers on it I bought back in 1996 - and didn't know anything about tire shelf life back then.  I have no idea how old they are.  But, they still hold air, are still round, have 80 percent of their tread, and show no signs of dry-rot or cracking... so, I still drive it occasionally to car shows, cruise-ins, etc., but not on the highway.  When they go they go, then I'll get some more.

Conversely, I put a set of Arizonian Silvers on my wife's '01 Grand Prix (Discount Tire 'house' brand), and she hardly ever drove the car... maybe 55K miles in the 15 years she owned it, and they showed dry-rot cracking between the treads after only 6 years on the car.  How's that for not getting your money's worth? Wink

Good luck in your search - I hope you find a set of tires that works out for you.

Eric

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#26
The hardening not only affects wet weather performance but also your braking/steering ability. So, even in warm dry weather you still have a safety issue.
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(05-05-2019, 03:33 PM)detritusmaximus Wrote: The hardening not only affects wet weather performance but also your braking/steering ability. So, even in warm dry weather you still have a safety issue.

It's what worried me - I'm used to gargantuan wet grip on the Pirelli's on my Jag XK8 and Bridgestone Potenza's on my CLK350 -- modern asymmetric soft compounds 

Really appreciate the help guys

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(05-06-2019, 01:55 AM)1sostatic Wrote:
(05-05-2019, 03:33 PM)detritusmaximus Wrote: The hardening not only affects wet weather performance but also your braking/steering ability. So, even in warm dry weather you still have a safety issue.

It's what worried me - I'm used to gargantuan wet grip on the Pirelli's on my Jag XK8 and Bridgestone Potenza's on my CLK350 -- modern asymmetric soft compounds 

Really appreciate the help guys

And you're not exactly comparing apples to apples there.  Modern asymmetric soft compounds on modern suspensions, compared to a '71 Mustang which is really a '63 Falcon underneath.  My '71 Mach 1 won't handle like my '85 Ferrari Mondial (308 chassis in 2+2 format) regardless of which tires are used.  lol
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#29
Damn! Some of you guys have some really nice "daily drivers". I'm lucky to have a VW Passat!!

For me as I've mentioned, I'm sort of stuck for now with BFG T/A's without going to larger wheels. Even then I am pretty sure I'd still run BFG's as I know they handle well, or as well as can be expected on a 48 year old car with stock old school suspension.
It's up to you of course, but BFG's are plentiful and relatively inexpensive. Just stay away from Chinese tyres, but that's my opinion.
Geoff.

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(05-06-2019, 08:20 AM)Stanglover Wrote: Damn! Some of you guys have some really nice "daily drivers". I'm lucky to have a VW Passat!!

For me as I've mentioned, I'm sort of stuck for now with BFG T/A's without going to larger wheels. Even then I am pretty sure I'd still run BFG's as I know they handle well, or as well as can be expected on a 48 year old car with stock old school suspension.
It's up to you of course, but BFG's are plentiful and relatively inexpensive. Just stay away from Chinese tyres, but that's my opinion.
Geoff.

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I wouldn't have a Chinese tire if they were the last tires on earth... I'd rather cut down banana leaves and make tires outta that ! ! ! !    whistling

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