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#31
(01-18-2020, 09:42 AM)Uh Stanglover Wrote:
(01-16-2020, 11:34 PM)7173Vert Wrote: We are all here for different reason’s, hopefully at the very least to share our interest in these car’s. No one should be forcing their opinion on anyone here. Let’s just get along and help each other move forward on their own personal interest in continuing to come to the site and to enjoy these great car’s.

 What you said in the above paragraph hit's the nail on the head. Period.  Bravo

No Period... We are entitled to agree to disagree, just stay professional. That’s how we learn. But, I appreciate what you believe sites like this should be for you.

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#32
(01-18-2020, 11:24 AM)7173Vert Wrote:
(01-18-2020, 09:42 AM)Uh Stanglover Wrote:
(01-16-2020, 11:34 PM)7173Vert Wrote: We are all here for different reason’s, hopefully at the very least to share our interest in these car’s. No one should be forcing their opinion on anyone here. Let’s just get along and help each other move forward on their own personal interest in continuing to come to the site and to enjoy these great car’s.

 What you said in the above paragraph hit's the nail on the head. Period.  Bravo

No Period... We are entitled to agree to disagree, just stay professional. That’s how we learn. But, I appreciate what you believe sites like this should be for you.
 Just agreeing with what you said, period or no period. At the end of the day, we are all here for the fun of it. No-one (or at least not many) is here to make money as an investment or business.
One thing I'd like to stress and that is this is a public site and all of us need to be mindful of that and the impact negative or perceived negative comments can have on the site and the hobby. When I was choosing a Forum to join for information, the one thing I looked at and liked about 7173Mustangs.com, was the level of professionalism. I did not see that on some others.
So, moving forward and as 7173Vert said, can we all get along and quit the bickering. No-one will ever agree with everybody.

I learn something new every day!
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#33
Sorry, my econ background seems to be compelling me to throw my two cents in, not about the above opinions so much, but just about selling prices in general. What annoys me is when a used car dealer will slap on a fresh paint job and new wheels and then price it like it has been restored. And sometimes they will get that price because there are buyers out there that do not know what we on this forum know about condition and originality, and how that usually affects value. It takes time, and sometimes money, to learn the info you need to know about all the variables that will effect value so you can make the most informed decision. Some people "over pay" because they are ignorant of historical value AND have made the decision not to do the work to learn about it. We can criticize them for not knowing, but are they required to become as knowledgable as possible before they purchase? Of course not, and like it or not they are a legitimate part of the demand. What we all seem to agree on is that a car is worth what someone else is willing to pay, so the most recent selling prices are worth paying attention to.
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(01-21-2020, 12:35 AM)BeerDontCount Wrote: Sorry, my econ background seems to be compelling me to throw my two cents in, not about the above opinions so much, but just about selling prices in general.  What annoys me is when a used car dealer will slap on a fresh paint job and new wheels and then price it like it has been restored.  And sometimes they will get that price because there are buyers out there that do not know what we on this forum know about condition and originality, and how that usually affects value.  It takes time, and sometimes money, to learn the info you need to know about all the variables that will effect value so you can make the most informed decision.  Some people "over pay" because they are ignorant of historical value AND have made the decision not to do the work to learn about it.  We can criticize them for not knowing, but are they required to become as knowledgable as possible before they purchase?  Of course not, and like it or not they are a legitimate part of the demand.  What we all seem to agree on is that a car is worth what someone else is willing to pay, so the most recent selling prices are worth paying attention to.


There will always be rip-off "artists" trying to make a quick buck without doing the work but karma usually deals with them. You are right that some people don't care enough to educate themselves and make educated decisions...maybe where the phrase "stupid money" comes from. They certainly aren't required to educate themselves and as you've noted, they are part of the demand which drives pricing. Prices certainly are rising as the economy is soaring.

Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! thumb

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(01-21-2020, 07:17 AM)EBSTANG Wrote:
(01-21-2020, 12:35 AM)BeerDontCount Wrote: Sorry, my econ background seems to be compelling me to throw my two cents in, not about the above opinions so much, but just about selling prices in general.  What annoys me is when a used car dealer will slap on a fresh paint job and new wheels and then price it like it has been restored.  And sometimes they will get that price because there are buyers out there that do not know what we on this forum know about condition and originality, and how that usually affects value.  It takes time, and sometimes money, to learn the info you need to know about all the variables that will effect value so you can make the most informed decision.  Some people "over pay" because they are ignorant of historical value AND have made the decision not to do the work to learn about it.  We can criticize them for not knowing, but are they required to become as knowledgable as possible before they purchase?  Of course not, and like it or not they are a legitimate part of the demand.  What we all seem to agree on is that a car is worth what someone else is willing to pay, so the most recent selling prices are worth paying attention to.


There will always be rip-off "artists" trying to make a quick buck without doing the work but karma usually deals with them. You are right that some people don't care enough to educate themselves and make educated decisions...maybe where the phrase "stupid money" comes from. They certainly aren't required to educate themselves and as you've noted, they are part of the demand which drives pricing. Prices certainly are rising as the economy is soaring.

"Stupid Money" = "ridiculous amount of money" - a.k.a. "WAY too much money."

* I'm not rejoining the discussion (that could be misconstrued as being 'pathetic').  Just pointing out the term for contextual purposes.  whistling

Eric

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If the purchaser is happy with the car they bought for the price they paid, that's all that matters.

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(01-21-2020, 03:24 PM)Mister 4x4 Wrote:
(01-21-2020, 07:17 AM)EBSTANG Wrote:
(01-21-2020, 12:35 AM)BeerDontCount Wrote: Sorry, my econ background seems to be compelling me to throw my two cents in, not about the above opinions so much, but just about selling prices in general.  What annoys me is when a used car dealer will slap on a fresh paint job and new wheels and then price it like it has been restored.  And sometimes they will get that price because there are buyers out there that do not know what we on this forum know about condition and originality, and how that usually affects value.  It takes time, and sometimes money, to learn the info you need to know about all the variables that will effect value so you can make the most informed decision.  Some people "over pay" because they are ignorant of historical value AND have made the decision not to do the work to learn about it.  We can criticize them for not knowing, but are they required to become as knowledgable as possible before they purchase?  Of course not, and like it or not they are a legitimate part of the demand.  What we all seem to agree on is that a car is worth what someone else is willing to pay, so the most recent selling prices are worth paying attention to.


There will always be rip-off "artists" trying to make a quick buck without doing the work but karma usually deals with them. You are right that some people don't care enough to educate themselves and make educated decisions...maybe where the phrase "stupid money" comes from. They certainly aren't required to educate themselves and as you've noted, they are part of the demand which drives pricing. Prices certainly are rising as the economy is soaring.

"Stupid Money" = "ridiculous amount of money" - a.k.a. "WAY too much money."

* I'm not rejoining the discussion (that could be misconstrued as being 'pathetic').  Just pointing out the term for contextual purposes.  whistling


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