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Installing long console in non console Mach 1?
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How does the factory long console attach to the floor when the car was not equipped with a console?  Are there brackets that have to be welded into the floor?


Any links or video's for doing this?

Thanks!
Wade
1972 Mach 1 351 cj 4speed
"We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of others, without fearing it."--Thomas Jefferson

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(01-27-2018, 09:51 AM)scgamecock Wrote: How does the factory long console attach to the floor when the car was not equipped with a console?  Are there brackets that have to be welded into the floor?


Any links or video's for doing this?
 No, just long sheet metal screws. I think about eight of them. Caution though, if you don't first cut or better yet use a small solder iron to burn the carpet holes, you will pull the threads and wreck your carpet.......... ask me how I know? Make sure you mark the holes accurately first!!
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(01-27-2018, 09:56 AM)Stanglover Wrote:
(01-27-2018, 09:51 AM)scgamecock Wrote: How does the factory long console attach to the floor when the car was not equipped with a console?  Are there brackets that have to be welded into the floor?


Any links or video's for doing this?
 No, just long sheet metal screws. I think about eight of them. Caution though, if you don't first cut or better yet use a small solder iron to burn the carpet holes, you will pull the threads and wreck your carpet.......... ask me how I know? Make sure you mark the holes accurately first!!

Whats the best way to mark the holes so you hit them without screwing up the carpet?

Thanks!
Wade
1972 Mach 1 351 cj 4speed
"We confide in our strength, without boasting of it; we respect that of others, without fearing it."--Thomas Jefferson

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(01-27-2018, 10:00 AM)scgamecock Wrote:
(01-27-2018, 09:56 AM)Stanglover Wrote:
(01-27-2018, 09:51 AM)scgamecock Wrote: How does the factory long console attach to the floor when the car was not equipped with a console?  Are there brackets that have to be welded into the floor?


Any links or video's for doing this?
 No, just long sheet metal screws. I think about eight of them. Caution though, if you don't first cut or better yet use a small solder iron to burn the carpet holes, you will pull the threads and wreck your carpet.......... ask me how I know? Make sure you mark the holes accurately first!!

Whats the best way to mark the holes so you hit them without screwing up the carpet?

 What I would do is to hold the console in the proper location, or have someone hold it for you, then perhaps use a small china marker in a color that can be seen, white perhaps or possibly use a small paint brush and a dab of white paint and mark the holes. You could use a small diameter solder iron tip through the mounting holes CAREFULLY to burn a mark, then enlarge it. A hole punch may be used as well. Drill a pilot hole through the tunnel. It's a bit of a tricky job, take your time.
 I'll bet though, others will have found another way of doing it, or some may just take their chance and screw it down. If I'm not mistaken, the factory screws are drill screws which are about 1.75" long.
My current car only has the mini console and I used the solder iron method. I have a long console I thought about putting in, but as mine is a stick shift, my previous experience with one on my 72 Q code 4 speed was a bruised elbow from hard shifting and hitting the console.
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LOL...........yea, I went for YEARS without mine ever being screwed down, because I didn't know of an easy way to do it.  When I had the interior all apart to do the sound proofing, I figured it was time to screw it down when rebuilding the interior.

I placed it where it wanted to be, put some white paint on a small tipped Q-Tip and carefully went down one of the corner holes. Removed the console and carefully cut the rug around that mark, and drilled a pilot hole for the screw. I then put the console back and used an ice pick to locate the hole, and inserted that screw. Then marked the other 3 corners, removed the console and repeated the drilling. Put the console back relocated it using the ice pic and screwed in all 4 corners. Then marked the rest of the holes and repeated the process. Finally installing it completely in place.

BTW, I used Drywall screws, but then again, I love drywall screws and use them just about everywhere whistling

You might ask why all the in & out, but for me, I've learned the hard way that I can never get all the holes in a project like this to line up if I try doing it all in one step.


Atomic

73 ragtop, 1999 Mustang Bright Atlantic Blue Paint, Phoenix Engine 302-335HP,  Edelbrock Carb & Performer manifold; c4 with 2000 stall and shiftkit; 3:55 auburn limited slip differential, Hedman shorties; Car Chemistry Exhaust

Classic Air; Tilt Steering Wheel; 1999 Chrysler Sebring bucket Seats ; power windows;
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(01-27-2018, 11:58 AM)mudbilly Wrote: LOL...........yea, I went for YEARS without mine ever being screwed down, because I didn't know of an easy way to do it.  When I had the interior all apart to do the sound proofing, I figured it was time to screw it down when rebuilding the interior.

I placed it where it wanted to be, put some white paint on a small tipped Q-Tip and carefully went down one of the corner holes. Removed the console and carefully cut the rug around that mark, and drilled a pilot hole for the screw. I then put the console back and used an ice pick to locate the hole, and inserted that screw. Then marked the other 3 corners, removed the console and repeated the drilling. Put the console back relocated it using the ice pic and screwed in all 4 corners. Then marked the rest of the holes and repeated the process. Finally installing it completely in place.

BTW, I used Drywall screws, but then again, I love drywall screws and use them just about everywhere  whistling

You might ask why all the in & out, but for me, I've learned the hard way that I can never get all the holes in a project like this to line up if I try doing it all in one step.


Atomic
 Good description there.
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#7
We used a cork hole trephine or leather trephine to cut the
holes in the carpet. I bought the console only to discover
the car never came with one.

mike

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I love learning new words , I read the Washington Post comics (must be 50 of them) everyday and I'm always surprised when they use a word that I have to google in order to understand the punchline Chin 

tre·phine
trəˈfīn,trəˈfēn/
noun
noun: trephine; plural noun: trephines
  1. 1.
    a hole saw used in surgery to remove a circle of tissue or bone.

73 ragtop, 1999 Mustang Bright Atlantic Blue Paint, Phoenix Engine 302-335HP,  Edelbrock Carb & Performer manifold; c4 with 2000 stall and shiftkit; 3:55 auburn limited slip differential, Hedman shorties; Car Chemistry Exhaust

Classic Air; Tilt Steering Wheel; 1999 Chrysler Sebring bucket Seats ; power windows;
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(01-27-2018, 05:57 PM)mudbilly Wrote: I love learning new words , I read the Washington Post comics (must be 50 of them) everyday and I'm always surprised when they use a word that I have to google in order to understand the punchline Chin 

tre·phine
trəˈfīn,trəˈfēn/
noun
noun: trephine; plural noun: trephines
  1. 1.
    a hole saw used in surgery to remove a circle of tissue or bone.

Glad to help.  I am an operating room nurse.

mike
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#10
They are all correct on the screws pulling the carpet in. You do need to set the console in place with the seats in the car. Get it centered and correct position fore and aft and then mark the locations. The melting of the holes is probably the best bet. Do not pull the screws down tight or you will crack the plastic. Also put some wax on the screws to help then not grab the carpet and use a power wire brush to also smooth out the threads on the screws. If you have a manual shift car most of the time the shift plate is missing that goes around the rubber boot to trim out the hole in the console.
The consoles also get all warped from heat in the car and time. You can heat them up with a heat gun and get back straight and in shape.
I never had issue with 4 speed and shifting I have long arms 6'5".
David


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