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Identifying 14x6" vs 14x7" trim rings, hub caps, and Sport Wheel Covers
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Just noted this great info from CudaK. Add me to the Sport Wheel cover group. I probably have 5 sets of these things in my attic which finally made up one good set to restore and put on the car. I think I have 2 sets of the 14x7 Sport Wheel Covers. Will check tonight. Not looking to sell them right now as I have some other plans for them.

One more comment. These things are a bugger to refinish. Probably went through a hole role of tape between the chrome, black, and argent refinishing.

They were $48.33 MSRP ($41.05 Dealer) option based on my original window sticker.

   

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#32
That looks SWEET!!! thumb thumb thumb

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#33
Yes, my car also came out of "storage" with the original 14" sport hub caps as per the factory invoice. I have since sourced an NOS set that will look real nice on the car once restored... My plan is to put these on the original rims with the Coker Firestone bias ply tires and have a second 14" set of magnum 500's with radials for normal driving...


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#34
Just to add to this great info. The Sport Wheel covers in 69-70 had a round valve stem hole. It is believed sometime by mid-71 production they went to an oval hole for the valve stem.

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bkdunha;258806 Wrote:Just to add to this great info. The Sport Wheel covers in 69-70 had a round valve stem hole. It is believed sometime by mid-71 production they went to an oval hole for the valve stem.

How about the 15 inch Sport Wheel covers? They were the rare ones.
Some turned up a month or so ago. For a car to be equipped originally with them I guess one would have to spec 15" tires first then the Sport Wheel covers would have to be in the 15 inch size. ????

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rackerm;258672 Wrote:After reading this thread from the beginning I have a question that I am hoping someone can answer. I have owned a basic 73 convertible for 20 years (2nd owner) with 14" trim rings on 14x6" rims, but the width of the rings are neither 2 1/2 deep dish or 1 1/2" as described at the beginning of this thread. They are 2 1/4" in width. The car is mostly original and I have the invoice and build sheet which clearly show it was ordered with 14" trim rings. I also have a set of 14" deep dish (NOS in Ford box), so I put in a tape measure to both as shown in the posted pic.

My question is was there a third Trim Ring with a 2 1/4 width available in 73 and possibly other years on 14 x 6" rims or my rings incorrect for my car?

Also I have the part number for the 14" deep dish rings, can anyone provide the part number for the 1 1/2" or my 2 1/4" width rings?

Thanks,
Rich

Rich, I'm glad you brought this up. Until now, I'd not seen any other trim ring size variant, but I'm now trying to find an answer for the 1-1/2" rings to begin with.

Perhaps they're for 14x5" rims from another 1971+ Ford product? I don't have a 14x5" to test that theory on at the moment, and I'd still want to try it on a 14x6" with both hub cap variants as well, to check depth.

Speaking of which, how deep are the hub caps on your '73? I realize you're riding on the 14x6" rims, but the overall effect of those 2.25" trim rings make it appear as if you have the wider 14x7" rims.

Honestly, I don't have an answer for this one. Not sure if I have those rings anymore either; I'll have to check.

-Kurt

Boss1Ray;258810 Wrote:How about the 15 inch Sport Wheel covers? They were the rare ones.
Some turned up a month or so ago. For a car to be equipped originally with them I guess one would have to spec 15" tires first then the Sport Wheel covers would have to be in the 15 inch size. ????

Both the 15" Sport Wheel Covers and the 14x7" deep dish versions for 1971+ (light grey centers, not dark, as shown earlier in this thread) are pretty elusive.

I'd put a bet that most of the 15" Sport Wheel Covers surfacing out there today are 1970 variants. Wouldn't be surprised if one or two of them have been refurbished in the 1971+ scheme with the light grey/silver "spokes."

-Kurt

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#37
Couple of shots of the 14x6 vs 14x7 Sport Wheel covers.

   
   
   

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#38
This was an interesting thread for sure.
Just a note on the 73 slotted forged aluminum wheels. When you look at the original window sticker one of the options included in the 73 Mach 1 63R package is Trim Rings W/Hub Caps. The other included Mach 1 options are Dual Racing Mirrors, Competition Suspension, Color-Keyed Carpeting and the last is All Vinyl Seats.
My car came with, and is listed on the sticker, (4) F-70X 14" Wide Oval Belted BSW Tires/Raised White LTRS. I also specified Goodyear Brand Name Tires, which also shows up on the window sticker. Firestone tires sucked back then and not much better today.
All that said the F-70X14" tires came on the 6" wide aluminum wheels. There was only one width aluminum wheel for Mustang in 73, Maverick and Comet in 74 and another Mercury vehicle all 6".
My 73 vert came with the sport wheel covers, 1 1/2" deep and the original owner had kept them and sent with the car along with the original steel wheels. One of the caps has one of the fake lugs twisted off. They looked like mag wheels to someone that did not know and the tire shops would hit the lugs with air wrench and break them, lol.
If your car has a six digit DSO code then it was ordered with non factory options that can be Paint / Trim. You could actually order Magnum 500 wheels on a 73 Mustang and they will show up on the build sheet in the remarks section. A Marti report does not show what a Special Order car got for options under the order only that it was a Special Order. He does not have those records they were held by the DSO for the car build and those records were destroyed he tells me. Special Orders could not include things like engine or drive train changes since they would not have been certified by government only Trim / Paint.
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cudak888;258879 Wrote:
rackerm;258672 Wrote:After reading this thread from the beginning I have a question that I am hoping someone can answer. I have owned a basic 73 convertible for 20 years (2nd owner) with 14" trim rings on 14x6" rims, but the width of the rings are neither 2 1/2 deep dish or 1 1/2" as described at the beginning of this thread. They are 2 1/4" in width. The car is mostly original and I have the invoice and build sheet which clearly show it was ordered with 14" trim rings. I also have a set of 14" deep dish (NOS in Ford box), so I put in a tape measure to both as shown in the posted pic.

My question is was there a third Trim Ring with a 2 1/4 width available in 73 and possibly other years on 14 x 6" rims or my rings incorrect for my car?

Also I have the part number for the 14" deep dish rings, can anyone provide the part number for the 1 1/2" or my 2 1/4" width rings?

Thanks,
Rich

Rich, I'm glad you brought this up. Until now, I'd not seen any other trim ring size variant, but I'm now trying to find an answer for the 1-1/2" rings to begin with.

Perhaps they're for 14x5" rims from another 1971+ Ford product? I don't have a 14x5" to test that theory on at the moment, and I'd still want to try it on a 14x6" with both hub cap variants as well, to check depth.

Speaking of which, how deep are the hub caps on your '73? I realize you're riding on the 14x6" rims, but the overall effect of those 2.25" trim rings make it appear as if you have the wider 14x7" rims.

Honestly, I don't have an answer for this one. Not sure if I have those rings anymore either; I'll have to check.

-Kurt

Boss1Ray;258810 Wrote:How about the 15 inch Sport Wheel covers? They were the rare ones.
Some turned up a month or so ago. For a car to be equipped originally with them I guess one would have to spec 15" tires first then the Sport Wheel covers would have to be in the 15 inch size. ????

Both the 15" Sport Wheel Covers and the 14x7" deep dish versions for 1971+ (light grey centers, not dark, as shown earlier in this thread) are pretty elusive.

I'd put a bet that most of the 15" Sport Wheel Covers surfacing out there today are 1970 variants. Wouldn't be surprised if one or two of them have been refurbished in the 1971+ scheme with the light grey/silver "spokes."

-Kurt

Kurt,

Thanks for your response. I measured the dog dish 10 5/8" Dia and 1 5/16 in height on the outer edge (not counting the domed area). See the pic. I do believe these are the original ring size. The originals were pretty beat up, so I replaced them with the same size years ago. The rims are 6 inchers. I clipped and posted the wheel area of the car's build sheet and invoice. I believe the "T" on the build sheet wheel covers box is for Trim Rings.

The car came with E70 x14 wide ovals with white sidewalls, if that helps.

Rich

Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs;258937 Wrote:This was an interesting thread for sure.
Just a note on the 73 slotted forged aluminum wheels. When you look at the original window sticker one of the options included in the 73 Mach 1 63R package is Trim Rings W/Hub Caps. The other included Mach 1 options are Dual Racing Mirrors, Competition Suspension, Color-Keyed Carpeting and the last is All Vinyl Seats.
My car came with, and is listed on the sticker, (4) F-70X 14" Wide Oval Belted BSW Tires/Raised White LTRS. I also specified Goodyear Brand Name Tires, which also shows up on the window sticker. Firestone tires sucked back then and not much better today.
All that said the F-70X14" tires came on the 6" wide aluminum wheels. There was only one width aluminum wheel for Mustang in 73, Maverick and Comet in 74 and another Mercury vehicle all 6".
My 73 vert came with the sport wheel covers, 1 1/2" deep and the original owner had kept them and sent with the car along with the original steel wheels. One of the caps has one of the fake lugs twisted off. They looked like mag wheels to someone that did not know and the tire shops would hit the lugs with air wrench and break them, lol.
If your car has a six digit DSO code then it was ordered with non factory options that can be Paint / Trim. You could actually order Magnum 500 wheels on a 73 Mustang and they will show up on the build sheet in the remarks section. A Marti report does not show what a Special Order car got for options under the order only that it was a Special Order. He does not have those records they were held by the DSO for the car build and those records were destroyed he tells me. Special Orders could not include things like engine or drive train changes since they would not have been certified by government only Trim / Paint.
David

David,

I have a H code 73 vert that came with GR78 x 14 radials on Aluminum Slots from the factory. I not seen that configuration very often. Don't know if they were Goodyears or Firestones.


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rackerm;259133 Wrote:Kurt,

Thanks for your response. I measured the dog dish 10 5/8" Dia and 1 5/16 in height on the outer edge (not counting the domed area). See the pic. I do believe these are the original ring size. The originals were pretty beat up, so I replaced them with the same size years ago. The rims are 6 inchers. I clipped and posted the wheel area of the car's build sheet and invoice. I believe the "T" on the build sheet wheel covers box is for Trim Rings.

The car came with E70 x14 wide ovals with white sidewalls, if that helps.

Rich

Those are definitely the thinner dog dish centers; the 14x7" variants are notably deeper (and I notice that I never did put the measurement in post #1 - guess I have something to do tonight).

Your build sheet does bring up one thing that ticks me off about Ford's nomenclature for wheels though - it only mentions tire size. My Mach 1 denotes E70x14's, but came with 14x7" wheels. It's not noted anywhere; it's just a given combination Ford would use if the E70x14" tires and hubcaps were ordered on a Mach.

In your case, the same exact tire selection gave you 14x6" wheels on a convertible.

Let me think about this.

-Kurt

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