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How many Steering Wheel Turns?
#11
(05-13-2019, 04:41 PM)midlife Wrote: Steering wheel can be centered when driving forward but not centered on the steering rod (it has a centering mark which should be straight upwards).  Most likely the tie rods need to be adjusted as well.  Typical crappy alignment shops don't touch tie rods except for toe adjustments, and that can leave the steering wheel not centered.  Some like to simply pull the wheel off and re-insert it so it looks centered but it truly is not.

Does that make sense?

Yessir, makes total sense!

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(05-13-2019, 05:10 PM)Bentworker Wrote: When the car wheels are straight forward are the two pins on the rag joint at 12 & 6 O’Clock?

The 2 pins are at 4 & 10 o'clock.

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#13
runninpony 
(05-13-2019, 05:32 PM)Don C Wrote: It doesn't take many complete turns on the tie rod adjusting sleeves to make the steering box (and wheel) a quarter turn off, probably just 2 or 3.

I guess I will find out when the time comes for an alignment, just have to find a competent shop.

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#14
Curious about something not meaning to hijack the thread but along the same topic. I have two turns from lock to lock. Does it mean my gear is 8.5? I had my gear box modified by Lee Steering a few years back?

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#15
2 turns? Does it seem twitchy on the highway? I have right around 3 turns lock to lock (maybe just slightly less) as I had mine converted to a quick ratio by powersteering.com.

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(05-14-2019, 08:19 AM)73pony Wrote: 2 turns? Does it seem twitchy on the highway? I have right around 3 turns lock to lock (maybe just slightly less) as I had mine converted to a quick ratio by powersteering.com.

It is definitely sensitive in the highway.

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1971 M-Code Mach 1 w/Ram Air, 408 stroker, 285/291 0.558" roller cam, Blue Thunder intake, TKO600, Hooker headers with electric cut-offs, FiTech EFI w/ RobBMC PowerSurge pump
Strange center section with Truetrac, 3.5 gear and 31 spline axles, 4-wheel disc brakes
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(05-14-2019, 03:43 AM)NOT A T5 Wrote:
(05-13-2019, 05:10 PM)Bentworker Wrote: When the car wheels are straight forward are the two pins on the rag joint at 12 & 6 O’Clock?

The 2 pins are at 4 & 10 o'clock.

I bet they got your Pitman arm off a spline or two.  Center of the box travel is when those pins on the coupler are at 12 & 6. (Large pin at 12 O’clock)

Some of the replacement pitman arms do not have a “bridged” spline to make them clock onto the sector shaft only one way.

Might be worth your time to borrow a good pitman arm puller and give it a try.   If it works you will need to pull your steering wheel and clock it so it is correct when the pins are at 12&6
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#18
runninpony 
I do not think the shop where my steering box was rebuilt ever pulled the pitman arm off, but I will call them to find out. Thanks for your input!

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runninpony 
When I mentioned my steering wheel turns it was from center to left lock 2 1/4 and center to right lock 1 3/4 turns but some of you guys mentioned 3 to 4 turns from Lock to Lock! So in my case 2 1/4 + 1 3/4 turns equal 4 TURNS lock to lock. So I should be in good shape other than needing an alignment!? Thanks All!

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#20
Pull the steering wheel & clock it so when the 9/16 pin on the steering coupler is at 12O’clock your steering wheel is also at 12 O’clock.  Carry on from there.  

Might be able to get straightened out with the tie rods, may need to pull the pitman.

Good luck!


These pictures might be of some help.  It is hard to tell but with the center line of the tie rod joint end of the pitman arm is parallel with the center of the sector shaft when the car is aimed straight forward.  2nd pic is of the 9/16" pin at 12 O'clock.

I know the blue paint pen may make some cringe - but it is my way of marking that things are torqued.


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