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Home defense -?
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A frimd of mine would like to purchase a firearm for home defense. She has never shot a gun before but wants to learn. She asked me what I thought. What wold be a good "starter" gun for home defense? Shotgun? Pistol? She has children so over penetration is a concern. I'm thinking a 20ga. With birdshot but would like some other opinions.. Thanks.
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#2
I'd start with firearms training for her and go from there once she has an idea of her comfort and interest level in hand guns and long guns.

Many ranges will have a good selection of things for her to try once she has the basics down.
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^+1. Whatever you have its not effective if the first round is not on target.

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#4
Hand guns and kids around don't mix, I would go with another method of protection. Recent WalMart incident is an example.

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#5
I disagree. I would submit that handguns are fine WITH proper training, education and precautions. Some individuals will be unsafe with a Nerf gun-you have to honestly assess the individual to know whether or not they can handle the responsibility.

If this individual can-then a shooting session with a handgun in a moderately powered chambering would be a good choice. Shotguns are unwieldy and hard to handle in a house. This is a time that either a pistol or a submachine gun excels. Since submachine guns aren't typically available affordable or reasonable for most beginners to use for home defense then look at a pistol.

Semi automatics are easier to load and reload, but usually require some hand strength to cycle the slide and some wrist strength to make functioning reliable.

Revolvers require more strength to pull the trigger, but are essentially idiot proof. It takes a long calculated trigger pull but there are usually no safeties to worry about. Revolvers are bulkier and harder to carry concealed and are slower to reload. In a house this isn't as big of a problem.

I believe a .38 special with premium defense ammo is a good defense round-not ideal, I'd like more power, but it is adequate and most people can learn to handle it.

I have a pair of 1911's in .45 locked in a quick access safe by my bed along with 4 extra magazines. But I have been shooting for over 30 years and am very comfortable as I shot competition with them for years.

It is a tough question. Each person needs to be treated a bit differently based upon his or her physical ability and mental attitude. Guns should be respected, not feared. They are tools and they are far from the most dangerous ones.

I don't let my kids anywhere near my radial arm saw, but will take them shooting anytime they like.

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#6
A dog with a BIG BARK works here!

Although I have a couple pistols I can get to easily
the thought of children in the house make firearms
perhaps not a good idea.
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#7
I totally agree that guns can be safe with proper training and supervision. I own guns too so I am not an anti gun advocate or anything like that. I just read about the accidents that occur so much that could be totally prevented. Should of been more specific when I said kids, was thinking in the 3 to 6 yrs old range that accidently get a hold of them.

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#8
I know a firearm is not always the answer. I have already told her to check out a local range that rents a variety of firearms.. It's just that she is convinced a gun is the way to go. She used the fact that my brother and I both have home defense guns (but I served 20+ years in Air Force Securty Forces and hunt, and my brother is a cop).

I should have specified. Her youngest kid is 12.
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#9
If my wife insisted on a self defence weapon I woul suggest a
double action PPK!

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Training, training, training... go to the range, get in the crowd, and learn. In the end , however, its mental preparedness and situational awareness that wins. A well trained scared-to-death person with a weapon is the worst scenario. Fear gives you tunnel vision, makes you perceive a situation your way and not the way it is. I love to shoot, I have no designs to shoot anyone, ever. A person whom feels the need to use a weapon for empowerment, often doesn't like to shoot, and has designs to shoot another person. With great power comes great responsibility. Perhaps some hand-to-hand skills would be a more correct thought. They're healthy, they obviously give you skills, and they can boost confidence.

Kids and guns... train them, it works. No one goes out and buy their kid a car, tosses them the keys when they get home and says, "There it is if you need it," do they? It would be unthinkable.
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