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Headers for Circle Track Race Car w/ 351C 2v
#1
Hello Everyone,
 
I'm looking for some help in buying a new set of headers.  I run a 72 Mustang with a 351C 2v at the local circle track.  I won the Bomber Championship with the car in 2015 and let me daughter drive it in 2016.  In 2017 I stepped up from the Bomber division to ProStock and damn they are fast...
 
So this year my car is getting a lot of work done to it.  New suspension, It will be much lighter, and lowered.
 
I have the car at good stance at 5" but I still might want to lower it to the minimum which is 4"
 
The problem is, the headers.  My current headers drop below the frame rails about 2 inches which leaves me very little ground clearance.  I haven't track tested it yet to see if it scrapes but I know I am going to have trailer loading issues.  Also, If I want to lower it to 4, it will be out of the question with these headers.
 
Does anyone know for certain, which headers I can buy that will tuck up nicely?  Any help is greatly appreciated. I know for a fact that not to many people try to run circle tracks with a car like this but I am die hard Ford. I am the only Ford on the track in this division, I bet you can guess what I'm trying to beat.

Like I said, any help is greatly appreciated.  Here is a picture of the car when it was a Bomber.

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#2
http://www.fordpowertrain.com/
Probably will not find any that tuck up better, ask for Stan.
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(04-12-2018, 10:03 AM)jdwest711 Wrote: Hello Everyone,
 
I'm looking for some help in buying a new set of headers.  I run a 72 Mustang with a 351C 2v at the local circle track.  I won the Bomber Championship with the car in 2015 and let me daughter drive it in 2016.  In 2017 I stepped up from the Bomber division to ProStock and damn they are fast...
 
So this year my car is getting a lot of work done to it.  New suspension, It will be much lighter, and lowered.
 
I have the car at good stance at 5" but I still might want to lower it to the minimum which is 4"
 
The problem is, the headers.  My current headers drop below the frame rails about 2 inches which leaves me very little ground clearance.  I haven't track tested it yet to see if it scrapes but I know I am going to have trailer loading issues.  Also, If I want to lower it to 4, it will be out of the question with these headers.
 
Does anyone know for certain, which headers I can buy that will tuck up nicely?  Any help is greatly appreciated. I know for a fact that not to many people try to run circle tracks with a car like this but I am die hard Ford. I am the only Ford on the track in this division, I bet you can guess what I'm trying to beat.

Like I said, any help is greatly appreciated.  Here is a picture of the car when it was a Bomber.

[Image: 72_Mustang_Win.jpg]

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#4
I wanted to respond to your post of looking for headers for your car. It warmed my heart to see my trusty old race car still alive! I spent a few years behind the wheel of that car, last I heard it had hit a wall and was totaled. Great to see its still alive. I drove it mostly at Irwindale now Toyota speedway could let go of the steering wheel at almost 80 mph in the corners and it would track like it was on rails. I will see if I still have some headers that came with it when I purchased the car. I was not allowed to run headers because it ran in what was called Classic Stock supposed to be stock, 351 c power, it was and a little more. The car is actually a 72 COUGAR... I will let you know.
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#5
I still have the internally modified 2v cast iron intake that we had to run,with a SPECIAL 500 cfm 2v carb that made 45 hp more than any other 2v carb at the time. It was the ONLY Ford in the bunch, and left the CHEBBIES in the dust Haha  No one would protest because they didn't know what they were looking at! Angel
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(04-12-2018, 06:05 PM)427heaven Wrote: I wanted to respond to your post of looking for headers for your car. It warmed my heart to see my trusty old race car still alive! I spent a few years behind the wheel of that car, last I heard it had hit a wall and was totaled. Great to see its still alive. I drove it mostly at Irwindale now Toyota speedway could let go of the steering wheel at almost 80 mph in the corners and it would track like it was on rails. I will see if I still have some headers that came with it when I purchased the car. I was not allowed to run headers because it ran in what was called Classic Stock supposed to be stock, 351 c power, it was and a little more. The car is actually a 72 COUGAR... I will let you know.

Sorry to disappoint you but this car is a 72 Mustang.  I built it in the year 2000.  I did sell it once but I bought it back when I saw it hit CraigsList 2 years later.  I knew the people who owned it and it never left Arizona.  If you know of a set of headers that don't hang lower that the frame rails, I would be real interested.

Thanks for looking and replying!
Jim
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(04-12-2018, 06:20 PM)427heaven Wrote: I still have the internally modified 2v cast iron intake that we had to run,with a SPECIAL 500 cfm 2v carb that made 45 hp more than any other 2v carb at the time. It was the ONLY Ford in the bunch, and left the CHEBBIES in the dust Haha  No one would protest because they didn't know what they were looking at! Angel

What kind of Carb was it? I'm only allowed to run the Holley 4412.  If you know any internal tricks, I'd be interested to hear them!  Most people like to keep that info to themselves.
 
Jim
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#8
Gosh wish I had taken a picture I took a set off a 72 vert and I do not remember them being low. The ones on my 73 vert are also up tight. I will see if I can see a name on them I did not install them so do not know brand. The car is on lift so I can get a pic.
David


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David
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#9
I got some pictures of mine on a 73 vert with 351 C 2-V. I could not see any name or marking probably on the face of the mounting flanges where you cannot see. They are about 1" below the cross member under the engine. Put a level under it to see. Car is up on 2 post lift.
I have had a couple people that came to buy parts comment that they are way higher than theirs. One said he drags on everything. These do not appear to have hit anything yet, knock on wood.
Is it possible that there is a different set for vert? I have also been told that 73 verts have different engine mounts 1" different from other models. I do not know that. That is also a C-4 which never came with 351 -C.
David

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Jim- You must have been the guy I purchased it from in the mid 2000s. I purchased it from someone near the Tucson area it was sitting on a old rusty super heavy duty trailer of some sort possibly for construction equipment. IT was light blue with a white stripe left to rot in the Arizona sun. It was a dirt car that I needed to convert to a pavement car because I was moving to California and all tracks are paved in So. Cal.. Let me try to describe some items on the car and then I will try to post some pictures you will get a kick out of them. The roll cage was built by what looked like heavy gauge water pipe and stick welded the corners protruded the windshield area in the top corners making running a windshield difficult because I had to run one on the pavement, as a dirt track car it didn't matter because it ran a steel mesh which I cut out. The battery box is located behind the driver seat and is what appears to have been a large AMMO box and was painted white. The center stripe was changed to yellow and there is a patch panel to the upper drivers side quarter panel where a guys bumper actually got into the car missing my shoulder by inches. I sold it to a family of racers that were three generations kid,dad gramps. KId crashed it in Tucson and must of rebuilt it. I live in Scottsdale so I know it left the state with me for approc 6-7 years. I can fill in some of its timeline, and I still own the carb! Dennis
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