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Just a bit of info to maybe bring up when discussing with them. Looks like they are charging a $65/ hour shop rate ($260/4hr = $65/hr)

Take that with the $685 for the H-Pipe (minimal cost for pipe) and they are basically telling you it took them 10 hours to make and fit the H-Pipe.

They marked the headers up by $100 over what you would pay at Summit, so if they are a hooker dealer or at least likely buying wholesale they marked those up considerably. Typical protocol when buying parts/etc wholesale and selling retail you mark it up to retail price, not almost 20% over retail.

Hope this helps in your discussion with them and you can come to some sort of resolution.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

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(04-23-2019, 10:55 AM)73pony Wrote: Just a bit of info to maybe bring up when discussing with them. Looks like they are charging a $65/ hour shop rate ($260/4hr = $65/hr)

Take that with the $685 for the H-Pipe (minimal cost for pipe) and they are basically telling you it took them 10 hours to make and fit the H-Pipe.

They marked the headers up by $100 over what you would pay at Summit, so if they are a hooker dealer or at least likely buying wholesale they marked those up considerably. Typical protocol when buying parts/etc wholesale and selling retail you mark it up to retail price, not almost 20% over retail.

Hope this helps in your discussion with them and you can come to some sort of resolution.

Yes, their shop rate is 65 per hour, very reasonable. I don’t think they are a hooker dealer. But they took my car by trailer to an exhaust shop that they use. So the exhaust shop made the h pipe and did the connection. 
I know I could have bought the headers from summit for 500 ish, but I was ok with them marking them up a bit and charging me a reasonable price to get this done. Sure sounds like I have to talk to them about it. Another thing is that this included the collectors and removal of the old pipes from the mufflers, but still too much, Thanks

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#13
Regarding the H-pipe, that should be a couple - three hundred dollars at best. I worked at a garage that did custom exhaust work and even as a complete newb bumble-f'ing up the first one completely on the bender, it only took me three hours on a Saturday morning to measure, form and weld the H-pipe for my first sportsroof back in '94. An experienced guy could knock it out in an hour or so, two hours max. Even at $100/hr, that's still what - $300 at most with materials and some clamps?

Sorry for the half rant - it really smokes me when I see people getting taken advantage of by mechanics.


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(04-23-2019, 02:13 PM)Hemikiller Wrote: Regarding the H-pipe, that should be a couple - three hundred dollars at best. I worked at a garage that did custom exhaust work and even as a complete newb bumble-f'ing up the first one completely on the bender, it only took me three hours on a Saturday morning to measure, form and weld the H-pipe for my first sportsroof back in '94. An experienced guy could knock it out in an hour or so, two hours max. Even at $100/hr, that's still what  - $300 at most with materials and some clamps?  

Sorry for the half rant - it really smokes me when I see people getting taken advantage of by mechanics.
Hey no problem Hemikiller, I really appreciate your response! I feel like I am getting screwed over on this.

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Ok guys, here’s an update on this fn header install. As you can probably tell I’m not happy. Just talked to the owner and he won’t budge on this price. Boy what a bunch of crap! I am not very happy with this, but I should have asked for an estimate first. I definitely would have said no way!
I had some other stuff that the insurance should pay as well and he said they wouldn’t so he billed me. Now I have to call Hagerty tomorrow and tell them that they jerry rigged the ignition with some kind of bypass wire cause they couldn’t find exactly where the intermittent starting problem is. I am getting charged for 3.5 hours for diagnosing the problem. This is not going well.
And on top of this, my transmission won’t go or stay in park, like the parking pawl broke or something. I am really bummed, this was going pretty good but not sure about it anymore. Hopefully I will get some better news from the insurance company and they will cover all this stuff. It’s all from the accident. It seems the shop where my car is doesn’t feel like dealing with the insurance company anymore. I don’t know what to think except that I just want my damn car back now.

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That's not good but hopefully it gets sorted out and you will have your vehicle back soon

I had a similar experience where I didn't get an estimate for my exhaust system and expected it would be about $1000 seeing as the headers were already installed and I supplied the mufflers they only had to make the pipes including a H pipe. Was a difficult job as it took them 8 hours($120 per hour) and I nearly fell on the floor once I got the bill for $1800. I had to pay it of course but must admit they did a very good job and it sounds great. Probably would have shopped around but being a difficult job to estimate just took a chance.

I wonder if your transmission was damaged from the accident? Hopefully just an adjustment needed and not a broken pawl.
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(04-25-2019, 11:51 PM)OzCoupe72 Wrote: That's not good but hopefully it gets sorted out and you will have your vehicle back soon

I had a similar experience where I didn't get an estimate for my exhaust system and expected it would be about $1000 seeing as the headers were already installed and I supplied the mufflers they only had to make the pipes including a H pipe. Was a difficult job as it took them 8 hours($120 per hour) and I nearly fell on the floor once I got the bill for $1800. I had to pay it of course but must admit they did a very good job and it sounds great. Probably would have shopped around but being a difficult job to estimate just took a chance.

I wonder if your transmission was damaged from the accident? Hopefully just an adjustment needed and not a broken pawl.

Wow, ya that’s a big shock when you get a bill that you way underestimated. That’s what I did.

My transmission was fine before the accident, never had any issues at all. They are saying that it is adjusted correct.

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The parking pawl can be accessed by removing the taihousing of the C-6. It could be the pawl, or the rod that drives it.


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(04-26-2019, 09:48 AM)Hemikiller Wrote: The parking pawl can be accessed by removing the taihousing of the C-6. It could be the pawl, or the rod that drives it.

Thanks again Hemikiller

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