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Fabrice's 429CJ 71 project
Man, I really have to read up on your plating technique Fabrice, I may have some questions coming your way soon. As always, everything's looking great.

Tom
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@tom
Plating is really rewarding. It's extra work and you can't cheat as for paint yes. But once you done, your parts are really protected or looking as new.
Best part is how easy and cheap that is. Wish I'd tried this many years ago...
You know where to find me if you need get started...

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Cold and rain whole week. Way bellow season temps.
As today was dry and sunny, did not miss the opportunity! Smile

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Was again time to see bye bye to all the bling bling parts done in past weeks.
First applied a layer of rust preventive epoxy to the bumper support as I can't plate it due to its volume. Then sprayed a generous epoxy layer and thanks to the sun and a tad more hardener, all was drying pretty fast.

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In between, took care of the rubber mount for the suspension plate, its stayed the week in bath and gave it a quick zinc coating hoping it could be ready to go for the other side epoxy pass. Which I did. Also, placed back temporarily the plate for the electrics plated a while back and all the screws plated last week that came from @dale part car. So I have all in place before I forget where they all go. Smile Aside one screw for the latch in need of a j-nut behind, all threads were fine. All will stay there till I handle the dashboard...

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The skies were starting to obfuscate the sun, but took my chances and sprayed the other side and by the end of the day, just before it start rain again, all was ready and hard to the touch. If the weather permits it, I might start prime them and may be paint a few tomorrow...

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Then while all these goodies were drying,went back to the car to pick my next victims. Came across 2 things. There was this ring with a screw, even had the original green on one side. Obviously this is useless, but wonder what is supposed to be there... anyone knows? On the other side there was nothing, but the little hole is there too.
Also another question, the driver rocker has a deep shock, not very obvious on the pict, but its like bit more of 1/2 inch deep in the middle. What would be best way to get it back in place. I'm thinking about renting some tool to weld some sticks and using a guide with weight to get in back out. But if anyone has some tips, please shoot, as i'm sure the metal isn't thin there...

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The other one isn't yet finished that I already start on this one. Way less dents but much more corrosion on this side, tho nothing to scare my acid powa Smile
Notice the plastic gold on the lower part of the pict. It's different than the passenger side for some reason... Unlike the other side, I do miss the totally useless and not even visible plastic pieces in the front. Also removed the deco group trim and extensions without problems.
The more I see these thin things, the more I'm thinking about learning fast how to weld stainless steel and made a new set myself. We'll see.

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Ah, behind the splashguard that was rivetted for some reason, I've discovered even more how talented the guy who did this was... I know its so ugly I should not post it, but also because its so ugly that I needed post it Smile
He used a metal sheet and mixed it with this poo, may be to imagine he actually placed some metal back after butchering the apron... tsss. Pushed all the wires inside, and I'll dive in this misery later on.

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Aside a problem on the front, what I took for rust first was just brown dirt. There is only few places where rust starts, but nothing serious. So good news in that regard.
However came across 2 other things that may be one of you knows about.
On second left pict, there is some kind of reinforcement. I there supposed to be something there? Or was it again added to hold the winshield washers tank because may of too big hole???
Also, and that one looks original, there is a thin tube that goes in pair from fuel pump back to tank. Was it some kind of return line or vapour thingy in 71 or specific to 429's ? I'll go EFI, so this will go away, but wondering what it was for.... My 73 doesn't have this and never seen this before.

Anyway, lets hope tomorrow will be nice weather kuz my todo plate is full again Smile

73 modified Grandé 351C. Almost done. 
71 429CJ. In progress
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Yes, you can get a stud welder and use a slide hammer to pull it out.

You can also get the glue type dent puller
https://www.amazon.com/Super-PDR-Paintless-Repair-Removal/dp/B079QK1RTT/ref=asc_df_B079QK1RTT/?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid={creative}&hvpos={adposition}&hvnetw=o&hvrand={random}&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl={devicemodel}&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584413735447979&psc=1

And, you can drill 3mm holes and use a hook to pull the dent out, or a slide hammer with a sheet metal screw to pull it out, and the weld the holes shut. The best body man I knew used a L shaped hook with a handle on it and would pull on the dent with one hand while tapping around the edges. The L shape didn't pull cones into the sheet metal the way a sheet metal screw does.



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(07-13-2019, 05:49 PM)Don C Wrote: Yes, you can get a stud welder and use a slide hammer to pull it out.
" I'm thinking about renting some tool to weld some sticks and using a guide with weight to get in back out."

Obviously your english is better than mine Big Grin 
Thats exactly what I ment.
I've seen this in action years ago, and there are no holes made, the extremity of the slide hammer was having a similar head as a drill machine and you could use lots of force on the studs. I'd like very much this above making holes to perform the same.

You mentionned the glue type dent puller. Would it be strong enough to pull this kind of metal thickness? I bet the metal is 1.5mm or even thicker on the rocker there no? I recall seen this used on modern cars rear fenders where we all know its cigarette paper thin these days.
Tho, might be worth a try before drill anything if I can't rent the "man" tools. Thanks for the tips Don.

73 modified Grandé 351C. Almost done. 
71 429CJ. In progress
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Still no summer temp, but warm enough and dry.

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Sanded all the parts where some some remains of ancient pits of rust were and applied primer. Not long after that, did the other side.
Unlike epoxy, this primer dries very fast.

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Hard to see these were pieces of rusted junks a few weeks ago! Smile
Once the second pass was hard, most of them went back in box for next week black paint as it was too late to start paint and coat.

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Did apply my metallic replacement color for the slop grey, as I marries much better to the green I'll be using. Still wet when I took the picts and weirdly reflecting the tree above, These should be coated together with the other black parts next week. Or may be during next week as weather is announced warmer.

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As usual, had to do ugly things too Smile After a good clean with water to remove all the collected mud and dirt, got to the raw material (read rust). Then applied the first pass of phosphoric acid, notice on lower picts how efficient it works. This is just 1/2 hour keeping the metal wet with a paint brush. When I left the garage to go work in garden, I forgot to take a pict, but only the deepest rust was remaining. The nose very corroded is submerged in bath (as on pict) and should be totally rust free by tomorrow. I'll continue apply during the week and should be able to start on other side next weekend...

All with all, another good mustang weekend Smile

To be continued...

73 modified Grandé 351C. Almost done. 
71 429CJ. In progress
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All looking good as usual Fabrice, great to see your progress
Another suggestion for pulling out the rocker panel dent is to tack weld some largish washers along the dent line perhaps 3-5 of them
Weld them vertically and run a bolt or rod through the washers then using a J hook or similar with either a slide hammer or a hydraulic porta-power gradually pull the dent out whilst tapping any high spots along the edge
Once done just twist off the washers and weld up any holes if necessary
I have used this method several times with great results
As much as I would like a stud welder I just can't afford to buy any more fancy tools for a while due to engine/trans problems
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(07-16-2019, 08:41 PM)OzCoupe72 Wrote: Another suggestion for pulling out the rocker panel dent is to tack weld some largish washers along the dent line perhaps 3-5 of them
Weld them vertically and run a bolt or rod through the washers then using a J hook or similar with either a slide hammer or a hydraulic porta-power gradually pull the dent out whilst tapping any high spots along the edge
Once done just twist off the washers and weld up any holes if necessary
I have used this method several times with great results
As much as I would like a stud welder I just can't afford to buy any more fancy tools for a while due to engine/trans problems
Thx for the tip m8. Yes, that's also what I was thinking about if i can't rent one of these things. Thought I might weld a bolt at the deepest and use the thread (thru a bar) to pull it back.
But err, what do I read??? You also have trans probs now?

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Stormy weather past week till yesterday
Couldn't do much, so did small things, especially on the 73.
As the 71 needs to go inside for some serious massage, the 73 needs be "kinda" finished first so I can finally have my cleveland kick whenever I feel I need one Smile

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Because the 73 needs a new jacket, went to the painter, as I keep the same green, I wanted also to have the new ref number (the system/regulations changed since it was painted). So I could order the exact same color later on for whatever I'd need to repaint, So came back home with tons of green sample cards to test against the paint till I finally found a match. Very hard and time consumming.
Also got myself a new glovebox, well, not exactly ready to be installed, but next time it rains, I could work on making a new one inside from this 1mx50cmx1mm aluminium plate. Just like in my 73, the 71 will receive a nice aluminium glovebox vs some cheapo cardboard.


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As I've replaced my 73 grille a few weeks back, found out this repop wasn't having the same angle for the contour as the old one, as a result the cover wasn't really fitting anymore, so played quite a bit on the lights brackets and few measurements later, thanks to some new rivet toy, removed the need to make a new cover. Bought this tool a while back to have proper screws for my mirrors, but never tried it. Very handy, tho, the tool itself isn't really the most friendly to set it to another size. Used M6 size for the bolts and went to shops to buy some in SS with flat allen heads, but all DIY stores in town assume people want either crap material with flat screwdriver heads in long sizes or nice ones but very short. So I'll replace these once I've located new nice ones online, for now, the cover is secured and in place. No need to make a new one!

Next week, i'll have to tune the headlights direction/height and can move on to the next on the todo for this car before go to paint.

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Despite the weather, I was able Saturday to start on the 71 fender as well, removed most of the shammy paint work I could and let it rest with paint remover last nite so I could work on it today.

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Lots of little things were also waiting for the sun and dry weather, and today painted black all parts primed last week and finished them with a "silk" semigloss coat. These should not see rust again for a very long while! Smile
Because my garage is a very crowdy place atm, everything went back into the box it came from. I'll prolly put the headlight brackets back together this week.


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Rest of the day was all about exposing the misery of the fender. There is still plenty work todo, as most rust is bellow layers of ancient protection, and of course, the stuff doesn't react to the paint remover...
But so far, the fender is in good condition and found only 3 small dents. This should make my neighbourgs happy as I will not need much hammering to fix them.
Then I could de-rust/prep this baby...

To be continued (if weather permits)...

73 modified Grandé 351C. Almost done. 
71 429CJ. In progress
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I see you have a rivnut tool also, very handy for some applications
Reckon you'll have that beast painted soon and glad you've stuck to the original green
Are you able to paint in your yard/shed or is it a no no in your town?
I can get away with some minor painting but hired a spray booth to do the big job due to bugs having a liking for 2 pack paint!

As for my vehicle I'm awaiting an autopsy on the C4 trans which should determine the cause of the engine failure
Will post a full report later but so far the crankshaft thrust bearing has failed due to the crankshaft being pushed forward
This could be anything from the flex plate backwards but suspect the trans has somehow suddenly increased converter charge pressure and forced the crank forwards
Just one of those unfortunate things that happens
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@OzCoupe72
Yes, bought that thing for the mirrors. The 73 had only one chrome mirror and needs to have holes properly done for the passenger side. The 71 needs at least one to be replaced. Not a tool you use daily for sure, but always wanted have one.

[Reckon you'll have that beast painted soon and glad you've stuck to the original green]
"Soon" is a very flexible term Smile The green I'll use is not the original Ivy green. I've picked a version of it that is bits darker and using smaller aluminum particles.It should "draw" the lines with a greater contrast than the original paint could.

I can paint/finish small parts, and I can prep/prime parts, but the final exterior color+coat will be done at my local paint shop in a heated booth.
Most, like hood, deck lid etc... will/already have the inside painted by me.


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Hot hot hot... whole week till yesterday was +- 38c / 100F
So hot it made me lazy on Saturday and did only little stuffs..

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Under a totally must have parasol/umbrella, reassembled some of the parts that were plated and painted during past weeks.


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In middle the reassembly of the last set of headlight bracket, I saw I did not have a replacement spring for it as the 2 new ones I bought were already used. I had one spring in good shape, but it was corroded. So took a plating break and restored it.
After each and every bolt or screw was preturned and greased, eventually I was able to complete the last set! Yeeeeeeaaaaah!

After 4 rusty sets, I'm totally OD'd doing these and really do not plan do another set anytime soon!! Smile


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They might not be perfect, they might show some ancient scars here and there, but knowing the way they were (and knowing what's underneath the semigloss top coat).
I'm very please with the results!

Headlights brackets: DONE! Smile

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As temperature was unbearable, went looking for a small victim. These little guys, holding the driveshaft, made of high grade metal were just having small corrosion. So gave them some love and few bubbles later, they were as new.

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As I can't yet have a 2 tons engine hoist in the garage by lack of space, already ordered some of the stuffs I'll be needed, like a lift plate and some chains... The JEGGs plate was not fitting, so enlarged the holes just a bit and finally got on the engine.
That's when I saw to my horror, that the vacuum tree thingy cleaned up last year, started to show signs of corrosion. Totally unacceptable!! Smile
Last year I didn't know how easy it was to plate and painted most other parts on the engine. But for that one, I thought the original protection was still good enough to avoid paint... I was wrong.

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So gave that poor thing the love it needed and after a first layer of nickel, finished it with zinc. Back on the engine it was looking pretty again! Smile
Then the sweaty me called it a day and went for a long cold shower.


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Today's temp was 33c / 89F with bits of wind, so did the work I wanted to do on the 73 yesterday and then went back to the front fender. On the todo: close that "antenna" hole. This fender being the driver side, probably someone installed some extra antenna for some piece of high tech equipment (at the time). All I know is I've close the original one on the passenger side and wasn't planning to put back the rubber thingy that was closing it since at least 1989.
To make a round patch of this scale, I asked Mr Dremmel to help me. 2 tiny discs later, installed it with magnets and a piece of copper behind. Once welded and grounded, fixed two tiny holes that I've missed and dollied the region to have a seamless surface.


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As my paint remover doesn't attack bondo and because I can't transform the garden (and occupants) into a white powdery landscape, sanding is out of order, so just like for the passenger one, I've used heat to remove it all. Discovered that at some point the body guy decided that it needed be done "right" with tin just like he did the hood corner, but he prolly decided 1/2 way that bondo was way faster... Then discovered other nice fixes, like a crease only asking for a hammer, that was instead hidden with 2 kilos of bondo. Same receipt for the region near the bumper, tho for that one, as to access it by behind is very hard when the fender is on, I can understand why he went for bondo vs fix.
Started hammer and dolly here and there, and was reminded by the garden occupants that the entire street population was in own gardens and that hammering could be a tad annoying. I totally disagreed on this, as Mustang metal sounds great! But it was late anyway, so cleaned up the mess... I'll prolly go make some noise this week when everybody's at work. Working home has its plusses Smile

And so ended a very hot weekend.

To be continued...

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71 429CJ. In progress
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At the beginning of the year, you complained about cold and rain; now you complain about high temperatures. Next, you'll be complaining about not having anything to do.

Let me check your shorts!
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