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Eminger Report - Questions
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luxstang;206615 Wrote:Good info on the color issue.
It's funny because the Marti says med brown and the Eminger says ginger.

The Eminger report is the correct one. It is the information Ford used to produce the actual car. The Marti report is just pulled from a database of information to create a report. The database likely does not distinguish between the two colors with the same code.

Jeff
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#12
I'm just wondering why a company would offer two colors with the same code the same year?
It would only cause a lot of confusion and make repairs harder because you couldn't tell what color it actually is.
That's what codes are used for, to exactly determine a color no matter what its name is.
Weird!
Another thing is that I have always only found 5H to be med brown in any info database I found.
This is the first time I stumbled upon ginger.
Can you believe it. I've had that document for about 8 years now and have never noticed it. Undecided

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#13
(12-09-2014, 09:23 PM)Boss1Ray Wrote: "I can tell you most if not all cars ordered for Export did not have currency amounts on the Monroney (window sticker/invoice) because of fluctuating exchange rates for different counties' currency."

To clarify - if Ford was to insert the prices in the intended county's currency at the normal time of printing - by the time the car was delivered, the price (currency valuation) could have increased or decreased. This could have resulted in an unintended loss to the selling dealer.

I sure hope this helps.


Ray
Thanks Ray... as always your explanations and advice are spot on.

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#14
Here is the California Emission Control sticker for 1973. It would have been placed on the driver's side quarter window with (of course) the window stickers placed on the driver's side door glass.

   

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1971 Hardtop (parts car)
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#15
Wow this is the first time that I have seen original version! Thank you for charing Ray Regards Lars DK73


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#16
Very cool Ray... never seen one of those before. It does give a specific shout-out to the Pinto engine...

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#17
73StangCoupe;206605 Wrote:Thanks Lux... Looks like you're right, it must be the export cars. It would be nice to get some sort of explanation from Marti with each report to spell things out for us. I paid a little over $60 for that report with shipping. My bride summed it up when she said "that's all you got for $60??"...

Thanks for posting up your invoice! Only US and Canada cars had pricing on the invoice. For all export cars the pricing is blank. The EPA message was on all the 1973 invoices I have seen. I am not sure on your other questions, but I think the FDAF was an advertising fee.

Just my 0.02...but those 2 pieces of paper are worth every bit of $60. That is not a "report" but the Original Ford invoice. Some one has been saving that documentation since November, 1972. Ford would have shredded it in 1979 if Lois Emminger didn't take it home with her. Notice the little tick marks next to each option? That is the assembly line inspector marking off the options as he visually inspected each option on the car. I think its cool that your car and this documentation have been reunited. How much do you think a Camaro owner would pay for this kind of documentation?

Enjoy!
Bo

Boss1Ray;206738 Wrote:Here is the California Emission Control sticker for 1973. It would have been placed on the driver's side quarter window with (of course) the window stickers placed on the driver's side door glass.

This is cool! Do you have a picture that shows the position of where it is located on the glass? Have you ever seen one for a 1971? I have a picture of one from a 1974 Cougar.

Thanks,
Bo

luxstang;206627 Wrote:I'm just wondering why a company would offer two colors with the same code the same year?
It would only cause a lot of confusion and make repairs harder because you couldn't tell what color it actually is.
That's what codes are used for, to exactly determine a color no matter what its name is.
Weird!
Another thing is that I have always only found 5H to be med brown in any info database I found.
This is the first time I stumbled upon ginger.
Can you believe it. I've had that document for about 8 years now and have never noticed it. Undecided

Medium Brown and Ginger are the same color.

In 1972 the color was almost exclusively called "Medium Brown" and in 1974 it was almost exclusively called "Ginger". 1973 was like a transition year. Even the PPG color chart calls it "Med Brown (Ginger) Metallic" (PPG was the Ford paint supplier in 1973)

Bo
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BinaryBo;206780 Wrote:[quote=73StangCoupe;206605]
Thanks Lux... Looks like you're right, it must be the export cars. It would be nice to get some sort of explanation from Marti with each report to spell things out for us. I paid a little over $60 for that report with shipping. My bride summed it up when she said "that's all you got for $60??"...

Thanks for posting up your invoice! Only US and Canada cars had pricing on the invoice. For all export cars the pricing is blank. The EPA message was on all the 1973 invoices I have seen. I am not sure on your other questions, but I think the FDAF was an advertising fee.

Just my 0.02...but those 2 pieces of paper are worth every bit of $60. That is not a "report" but the Original Ford invoice. Some one has been saving that documentation since November, 1972. Ford would have shredded it in 1979 if Lois Emminger didn't take it home with her. Notice the little tick marks next to each option? That is the assembly line inspector marking off the options as he visually inspected each option on the car. I think its cool that your car and this documentation have been reunited. How much do you think a Camaro owner would pay for this kind of documentation?

Enjoy!
Bo

Hey Bo... I do understand and appreciate how cool it is to have this sort of documentation for our cars. Your comments are exactly right.

I'm not sure, is any of this sort of documentation available for chevys? If not, sucks to be a chevy lover...

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#19
Bo - as far as the alignment of the sticker - check ebay quickly for a blue 73 convertible. It is priced pretty high so I figure it will be on ebay for a while.

That is where I found the pic - it shows the placement on the DS quarter window.

FDAP is advertising fee - might be same as "holdback" but I mentioned it earlier in this thread...

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1971 Hardtop (parts car)
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#20
Boss1Ray;206798 Wrote:Bo - as far as the alignment of the sticker - check ebay quickly for a blue 73 convertible. It is priced pretty high so I figure it will be on ebay for a while.

That is where I found the pic - it shows the placement on the DS quarter window.

Perfect! Just what I needed. Thanks!

BTW, it looks like the car sold. The listing was removed.

Bo
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