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E-bay 4 speed pedals
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/71-72-73-Mustang...9d&vxp=mtr
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#2
That schmuck is fishing for a sucker.

That's a manual-trans, non-power brake assembly from a base model 3-speed trans car (a rough one too, from those pits) - and from his crafty photography, he knows it too: It took some scrutiny to get a good idea of where the brake pedal pin was sitting on the brake pedal. That, and it isn't marked for disc brakes.

Somebody will get a rude awakening when they realize that this assembly is not what he claims it is.

Granted - if I recall correctly - an automatic trans brake pedal lever can be retrofitted into the unit and the manual-trans pedal re-welded to it, but that's not what you pay $455 for.

-Kurt

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#3
i am taking out my clutch/brake pedal assembly here shortly and will be up for sale soon! mine is a power disc brake pedal too LOL!!!

anybody who wants a set hit me up!
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#4
I've talked with the Seller at the Carlisle, PA show before - Very shady. We call him Fast Freddy.

I too have a pedal assembly for sale from a '73 Mach 1. Not sure how you tell the difference between 3 or 4 speed and power vs non-power though.

Mike
Lancaster, PA
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#5
I am a little confused on the comments here too. That looks like the assembly my car needs. The extra bracketing on the left side is just like the bracketing for my tilt column.

I have a pedal assembly for sale too that I assume is from a non-power brake car since the brake pin is at a different height than the pin on my power brake car. I didn't think a 3 and 4 speed were different in the pedal box either.

Gayle Force;185539 Wrote:I've talked with the Seller at the Carlisle, PA show before - Very shady. We call him Fast Freddy.

I too have a pedal assembly for sale from a '73 Mach 1. Not sure how you tell the difference between 3 or 4 speed and power vs non-power though.
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#6
Gayle Force;185539 Wrote:Not sure how you tell the difference between 3 or 4 speed and power vs non-power though.

Pretty sure the clutch pedal doesn't differ between the two.

kcmash;185550 Wrote:I am a little confused on the comments here too. That looks like the assembly my car needs. The extra bracketing on the left side is just like the bracketing for my tilt column.

The brake pedal pivot pin makes or breaks (pun not intended) the deal.

This is a brake pedal (automatic shown; same principle for manual) for a '71-73 with power brakes; the lower pin interacts properly with the vacuum booster:

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This is a brake pedal (automatic) for a '71-73 with no power assist; the brake pedal pin is higher and operates the master cylinder directly:

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Now scrutinize these photos from the auction that started this discussion. Compare the pin location based on the upper bend in the brake pedal arm. The pin is in the non-power-assist location:

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Granted - at junkyard prices - a manual-trans, no-boost pedal assembly such as the one above could be quickly turned into a manual-trans pedal assembly for disc/power boosted brakes by using an auto-trans brake pedal arm. The narrower pedal could be swapped over, though - in lieu of trying to re-do that critical swaged-and-welded joint - one could simply cut the auto pedal to the manual pedal's dimensions, and hammer the left edge flat.

Manual brake assemblies with power assist brake pedals are valuable, and this fellow is pricing accordingly. Problem is, even though he claims that it is a power-assist assembly, it isn't. It's the much more common and less-valuable non-power assist unit used in 3-speed manual cars.

Hence, he's claiming that it is what it isn't, and is pricing it as it is. He's hoping that the poor sucker who buys it doesn't install it quick enough to file a Buyer Protection claim when they find out they've been duped.

-Kurt

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#7
Here is my example of how a 4 speed power brake assembly should look ... And keep in mind I got this for only $125
The local scrap yard I also picked a 3 speed manual brake one for only $25


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97 F150: wrecked, 96 Dodge 4x4: blown motor / donated to the base
88 Suburban 4x4 355 cid 8 inch lift: sold, 95 Celica 5 speed : sold
68 F750 391 cid : sold,  96 F350 7.3 diesel dually : sold
86 Chevy 1500 305 cid c1500: sold, 73 Mustang mach 1 466 cid 5 speed : under construction
89 F350 4x4 cummins swap : sold, 64 Dodge d600: gone
00 Excursion: traded, 72 Mustang mach 1 302: scrapped
73 Mustang coupe: scrapped, 73 ranchero gt
06 Honda crf 450x : sold, 04 Honda vtx 1800
88 Bronco xlt lariat: sold, 76 Charger: traded
95 F350 4x4: sold , 91 Crown Victoria 302: sold
02 Dakota: traded, 96 f250 powerstroke: parts truck
87 f700, 98 e350 powerstroke: sold
03 land rover: traded, 95 f350 dually: part out
95 f350 dually: traded, 94 f150 4x4: traded
97 f250: sold, 76 Maverick 302: sold
91 240sx rb25: sold, 86 firebird: sold
86 Trans Am: sold, 88 westernstar: sold
89 dodge d350: sold, 2000 Dakota 4x4: sold  
84 f350 3+3: sold, 90 bronco: partout
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#8
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Bingo. The real thing - and a good price comparison to what the shyster on eBay is trying to pull.

I'm tempted to take you up on that scrapyard unit, but I don't think I should be fantasizing about toploaders in the yellow car just yet...or ever...

-Kurt

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