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Driving the 4-speed...
#1
The last time I drove a 4-speed Mach with any regularity was back in the 70s when I owned a 72 4-speed "Q" code mach. I am 6'3", wear a 38"-length pant and remember it was a little awkward and cramped...to say the least. My left knee had almost no room to come up to release the clutch pedal. I also remember pinching my knee in between the steering wheel and the deluxe door panel handle on more than one occasion...very painful.
Over the years I had forgotten all that, but I spent some time this weekend driving my friends 4-speed 429 SCJ mach ( what a car!)...and it all came back to me. Very difficult for a tall guy to shift this thing with any comfort.

Back in the day I was tall, and that made it a bit difficult. Today I am not just tall, but fat too! That really toughens it up!

Oh well, I'm glad mine is a C-6...

Any other 4-speed drivers experience this?
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#2
at 6'1" and heavily muscled around the midsection, I found the stock steering wheel a bit of a problem. I have standard door panels so I haven't experienced the "Pinch"

I do still consider lowering my seat somehow and moving it back a bit, but that's a lot of work and I'm in lazy mode this month

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#3
- drove a 59 MGA fixed head coupe briefly in college. Very briefly! Very crampt for a 6' punk like me.
And talking about 'pinch' - the steering wheel was extra large to help move the old Brdgstone tires (no PS Smile ).
Sold that one quick. Cool looking car but too damn tiny for me!!!!!!

So for my Mustangs, the room with the 4 speed is very acceptable for me. I will never forget that MGA...

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#4
Kit Sullivan;195273 Wrote:The last time I drove a 4-speed Mach with any regularity was back in the 70s when I owned a 72 4-speed "Q" code mach. I am 6'3", wear a 38"-length pant and remember it was a little awkward and cramped...to say the least. My left knee had almost no room to come up to release the clutch pedal. I also remember pinching my knee in between the steering wheel and the deluxe door panel handle on more than one occasion...very painful.
Over the years I had forgotten all that, but I spent some time this weekend driving my friends 4-speed 429 SCJ mach ( what a car!)...and it all came back to me. Very difficult for a tall guy to shift this thing with any comfort.

Back in the day I was tall, and that made it a bit difficult. Today I am not just tall, but fat too! That really toughens it up!

Oh well, I'm glad mine is a C-6...

Any other 4-speed drivers experience this?

I am about the same height as you, but with shorter inseam. I have never had any problems with clutching or shifting my Mach 1.
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#5
I think Ford based their measurements on a 5'10" frame because I fit perfect.
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#6
At an even 6'0", I think I fit pretty good. I am certainly glad I am not taller though! I feel for you tall guys!

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Dave

1931 Ford Model A Station Wagon
1969 Mach 1 - 351C, TKO-600, 4WDB, R&P, A/C, Shaker, Fold Down, etc.
1972 Mach 1 - 351C, FMX, PDB, PS, A/C, Fold Down, Console
1996 Mustang Cobra Convertible - 10psi Procharger
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#7
Good point guys. I am very close to 6' and when I was welding the new floors I placed the front seat bases app. 2" back from the original position. Nobody doesn't know the modification but it gives you extra room for front seats if needed.
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#8
When my first car (73 Mach I) was wrecked I went on a search for a replacement. Lots of stories to tell. In 1984 Phoenix was smaller, cars were sold in the newspaper and 'penny saver'.

Anyways. Almost picked up a really nice 4 speed Mach I. I forget which year. The guy said it was fast and I believe him. But I jumped in and got the pinched knee. At 6' 4" there is just not enough room between the door handle and the steering wheel. It's why I don't own that car, that and the green interior didn't appeal to me. It's also the only reason I never swapped in a manual.

Of course now a days I could get the seat moved, smaller steering wheel, hydro clutch with a shorter throw... I still dream of grabbing my own gears.

'Mike'
73 Convertible - 351C/4V CC heads/4bolt/forged flat tops/comp 270/rhodes/mallory unilite/tri-power/hookers/glasspacks/c6/3.50 limited slip/Gear Vendors/Global West sub frames, strut rods and shelby style traction bars/ Rear sway bar/tilt steering (not original)

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#9
I'm 5'10" so no complaints with my 4 speed. Haven't driven it in about 6 years, as it's waiting for me to restore it. I do remember the Hurst handle was well positioned. No tilt wheel but no complaints either.
My gripe is on all 7173's on the floor. Where the high/low switch is. It needs to be boxed and raised so like modern cars you have a place to comfortably rest your foot.
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#10
No problem here! 6'3" with 32" inseam. I have a14" wheel and seats moved rearward 3". Big Grin

The back seat is only good for small children or double amputees though.

Jeff T.

Low buck, touring style, '73 Convertible "rolling restoration", 351c, 2v heads with a shave and a haircut, Performer intake, Holley 650(ish), roller rockers, screw in studs, guideplates, stainless valves, Duraspark / Motorsports MSD, T-5 conversion. 1-1/8" front, 3/4" rear swaybars KYB shocks and some home brewed subframe connectors. Future plans; JGC steering box, Cobra brakes and... paint, interior, etc.

When I die I want to die like grandpa, peacefully in my sleep... not screaming, like his passenger.

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