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delimma of originality vs driveability
#1
Hi. I have been away from the forum for a long time. This is a reply to a post I saw at vintage-mustang.com by someone who is the original owner of a 1972 R code Mach I: I saw your post, and I am restoring my 72 Bright Blue R code convertible right now, and your post provided me with some valuable information. I was unsure whether these cars came with Goodyear Polyglass GTs or Firestone Wide Ovals. Apparently your car came with a set or Polyglass gts, and that's great, because I just bought a set of new take off F60 15 Goodyear Polyglass GTs and all are (incredibly) date coded for 1972! I think these tires will look awesome on the car, but the ride is going to be aweful! I'd like to post a thread for everyone out there to chime in on which tire looks better, and a general conversation of the dilemma we all have of whether to compromise the value of a rare car when it comes to drive-ability (I'm conflicted that I could have put a set of new BFG radial T/As or Cooper Cobra radials on the car and the car would still look nice but ride a lot better). I know I could have two sets of wheels and tires and change them out for shows vs. driving, but it is such a pain to spend all that extra money and waste the space in my garage. Thanks! Kevin.

 CONVERTIBLES:
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, Tach, Posi, Magnums
1F03M, Grabber Lime, White, White Top, A/C, CA Car
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, White Dlx, White Top, PW
1F03M, Black, White Dlx, White Top, Tach, Posi
1F03M, Pewter, Black Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, A/C, R/A, Tach, Magnums
1F03M, Bright Blue, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Decor Grp
2F03R, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03R, Bright Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03Q, Bright Red, Red Dlx, Rim Blow, A/C, Tach
2F03Q, Bright Lime, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, P/W, Tilt, Conv. Grp, Decor Grp
2F03Q, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Tach, A/C, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Magnums, PW
3F03Q, Blue Glow, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, A/C, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Forged Wheels, PW
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp,  Side Stripes, Tu- Tone hood, Forged Wheels 
3F03Q, Copper Metallic, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes,  Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Wheels
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Black Dlx, Black Tp, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Stripes,Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Whls
And 15 more verts, 2 Boss 351s and 2 M-code Mach I's! Tongue 
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#2
Here's my two cents. If the car is nothing special, like mine, a 302 vert with FMX, then do whatever you want. If it's a Boss 351, 72 R-code or a Shelby (for the older ones) keep it original or if you do mods make sure they're reversible. (Rims, steering wheels etc)
I don't think it should ever influence your choice of tires or brake pads unless you only Trailer the car to shows. If you're gonna drive it, make sure it's as roadworthy as possible.
Tires are not part of the car, they're easily swapped. You neither have the original air in them nor the original oil in the engine.

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#3
Thanks Mike!



luxstang;286495 Wrote:Here's my two cents. If the car is nothing special, like mine, a 302 vert with FMX, then do whatever you want. If it's a Boss 351, 72 R-code or a Shelby (for the older ones) keep it original or if you do mods make sure they're reversible. (Rims, steering wheels etc)
I don't think it should ever influence your choice of tires or brake pads unless you only Trailer the car to shows. If you're gonna drive it, make sure it's as roadworthy as possible.
Tires are not part of the car, they're easily swapped. You neither have the original air in them note the original oil in the engine.

 CONVERTIBLES:
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, Tach, Posi, Magnums
1F03M, Grabber Lime, White, White Top, A/C, CA Car
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, White Dlx, White Top, PW
1F03M, Black, White Dlx, White Top, Tach, Posi
1F03M, Pewter, Black Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, A/C, R/A, Tach, Magnums
1F03M, Bright Blue, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Decor Grp
2F03R, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03R, Bright Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03Q, Bright Red, Red Dlx, Rim Blow, A/C, Tach
2F03Q, Bright Lime, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, P/W, Tilt, Conv. Grp, Decor Grp
2F03Q, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Tach, A/C, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Magnums, PW
3F03Q, Blue Glow, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, A/C, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Forged Wheels, PW
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp,  Side Stripes, Tu- Tone hood, Forged Wheels 
3F03Q, Copper Metallic, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes,  Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Wheels
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Black Dlx, Black Tp, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Stripes,Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Whls
And 15 more verts, 2 Boss 351s and 2 M-code Mach I's! Tongue 
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#4
Two sets of wheels with one set original and one set with radial tires so you can enjoy driving it. Dad's Green Boss has Bias ply ties and we don't drive it too far. On the 72 R Code Mach 1 and the 73 Q Code Mach 1 we have radials and it is so much better when you want to drive them.
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#5
Hi Kevken,

Hey, welcome back! Good to see you on the Forum again, and hope you've been keeping well. (and all your beautiful ridesSmile)

Regards your question on the rubber. As i recall, the old Polyglass tires were an average performer, but in their day were the bees knees. I don't know about the newer versions though sorry.
I run Mastercraft Avenger tires on my Mustangs, and i'm very happy with them in every way. If keeping to the stock original looking car is the most important thing for you, then go with the Poly tires, if not then
go with a modern tires. Hope that helps. And hey, don't be a stranger.Smile

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#6
Put modern radials on for driving around. The extra cost and storage of a spare set of originals for shows is much cheaper than your deductible. And like you said you will enjoy the ride more. The average Joe doesn't give a care about your tread when you are chatting up at the gas station or where ever. And if you meet an actual enthusiest and say 'Yeah, I keep a set of bias plys at home for shows' we will all totally get it. Wink

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#7
I would be very leery of driving around town on 40+ year old tires. In fact, most reputable places state that you should replace any tire after 5 years due to aging of the rubber. If these are original tires, that's great and they are worth a lot of money! Best to use them for show purposes only and trailer the car to/from shows. I like the idea of having two sets of wheels/tires: one for show and one for go!

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#8
Thanks! I have decided to store the original wheels, tires, hubcaps and trim rings and put a set of repro magnum 500s and some Cooper Cobras on the car and enjoy driving it!

mweeps;286501 Wrote:Two sets of wheels with one set original and one set with radial tires so you can enjoy driving it. Dad's Green Boss has Bias ply ties and we don't drive it too far. On the 72 R Code Mach 1 and the 73 Q Code Mach 1 we have radials and it is so much better when you want to drive them.

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 CONVERTIBLES:
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, Tach, Posi, Magnums
1F03M, Grabber Lime, White, White Top, A/C, CA Car
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, White Dlx, White Top, PW
1F03M, Black, White Dlx, White Top, Tach, Posi
1F03M, Pewter, Black Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, A/C, R/A, Tach, Magnums
1F03M, Bright Blue, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Decor Grp
2F03R, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03R, Bright Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03Q, Bright Red, Red Dlx, Rim Blow, A/C, Tach
2F03Q, Bright Lime, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, P/W, Tilt, Conv. Grp, Decor Grp
2F03Q, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Tach, A/C, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Magnums, PW
3F03Q, Blue Glow, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, A/C, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Forged Wheels, PW
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp,  Side Stripes, Tu- Tone hood, Forged Wheels 
3F03Q, Copper Metallic, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes,  Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Wheels
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Black Dlx, Black Tp, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Stripes,Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Whls
And 15 more verts, 2 Boss 351s and 2 M-code Mach I's! Tongue 
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#9
Great feedback. I'm feeling a lot better about putting some Magnums and new radials on the car now. Thanks! Kevin.

midlife;286546 Wrote:I would be very leery of driving around town on 40+ year old tires. In fact, most reputable places state that you should replace any tire after 5 years due to aging of the rubber. If these are original tires, that's great and they are worth a lot of money! Best to use them for show purposes only and trailer the car to/from shows. I like the idea of having two sets of wheels/tires: one for show and one for go!

 CONVERTIBLES:
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, Tach, Posi, Magnums
1F03M, Grabber Lime, White, White Top, A/C, CA Car
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, White Dlx, White Top, PW
1F03M, Black, White Dlx, White Top, Tach, Posi
1F03M, Pewter, Black Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, A/C, R/A, Tach, Magnums
1F03M, Bright Blue, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Decor Grp
2F03R, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03R, Bright Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03Q, Bright Red, Red Dlx, Rim Blow, A/C, Tach
2F03Q, Bright Lime, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, P/W, Tilt, Conv. Grp, Decor Grp
2F03Q, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Tach, A/C, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Magnums, PW
3F03Q, Blue Glow, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, A/C, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Forged Wheels, PW
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp,  Side Stripes, Tu- Tone hood, Forged Wheels 
3F03Q, Copper Metallic, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes,  Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Wheels
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Black Dlx, Black Tp, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Stripes,Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Whls
And 15 more verts, 2 Boss 351s and 2 M-code Mach I's! Tongue 
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#10
Thanks Greg! I like the Mastercrafts too. They are among the few raised white letter tires available to us today. Too bad they no longer make the Firestone Firehawks in RWL. I loved them! And Goodyear radials are out too if you want RWL. I wonder why all the tire companies are going away from RWL? Kevin.


Hi Kevken,

Hey, welcome back! Good to see you on the Forum again, and hope you've been keeping well. (and all your beautiful ridesSmile)

Regards your question on the rubber. As i recall, the old Polyglass tires were an average performer, but in their day were the bees knees. I don't know about the newer versions though sorry.
I run Mastercraft Avenger tires on my Mustangs, and i'm very happy with them in every way. If keeping to the stock original looking car is the most important thing for you, then go with the Poly tires, if not then
go with a modern tires. Hope that helps. And hey, don't be a stranger.Smile

Greg.Smile
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 CONVERTIBLES:
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, Tach, Posi, Magnums
1F03M, Grabber Lime, White, White Top, A/C, CA Car
1F03M, Maroon Metallic, White Dlx, White Top, PW
1F03M, Black, White Dlx, White Top, Tach, Posi
1F03M, Pewter, Black Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, A/C, R/A, Tach, Magnums
1F03M, Bright Blue, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Decor Grp
2F03R, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03R, Bright Blue, White Dlx, White Top, Decor Grp, Tach, etc.
2F03Q, Bright Red, Red Dlx, Rim Blow, A/C, Tach
2F03Q, Bright Lime, Black Dlx, Black Top, A/C, P/W, Tilt, Conv. Grp, Decor Grp
2F03Q, Grabber Blue, White Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, Tach, A/C, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Magnums, PW
3F03Q, Blue Glow, Blue Dlx, White Top, 4-Spd, A/C, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes, Forged Wheels, PW
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp,  Side Stripes, Tu- Tone hood, Forged Wheels 
3F03Q, Copper Metallic, Ginger Dlx, Black Top, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Side Stripes,  Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Wheels
3F03Q, Gold Glow, Black Dlx, Black Tp, 4-Spd, Tach, Decor Grp, Stripes,Tu-Tone Hood, Forged Whls
And 15 more verts, 2 Boss 351s and 2 M-code Mach I's! Tongue 
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