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BOSS 351
#1
OK experts how correct is this one. They want 89,000.00 for it. Looks nice in the photos.


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https://inventory.vanguardmotorsales.com...g-boss-351
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#2
I love the "slop gray" color for the underside of the floor pans. Gotta be "concours correct!"

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#3
When I see Vanguard Motors, I assume its 30% over-valued right from the start.
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#4
Well it would need a lot of paintwork to be correct
As Randy pointed out the gray under the hood is ... just sad , maybe they used to much blue on the bottom
of the car and didn't save enough for under the hood.
I see to many other thing to list
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#5
Here is another one for $20K less. Price seems reasonable..Worth it or not?

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2637/1...g-boss-351
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#6
As usual with these guys a SHINY USED CAR. This is for sure not a restoration but done to someone's taste. Like others have said under hood is wrong. I put together a short list below not a Boss Expert so some may be correct for Boss.
Entire exhaust system incorrect.
Hood hinges painted not phosphate.
Shock caps painted not phosphate.
Shock tower braces black not SLOP grey.
Hood latch bracket black not SLOP grey.
Rev Limiter needs to checked they do make fake empty ones.
Of course Ford did not paint floors only have primer with some undercoat on floor and in rear wheel wells along with body color over spray.
Drive shaft painted and does not show paint mark codes.
Engine number not there is a big one, Ford did not leave them off so it has to be not number matching.
Steering wheel in bad shape.
Is the radio antenna large diameter on 71? My 72 & 73 all have skinny one.
The tire pressure sticker should be on door post not door end.
I could not read the door sticker or Marti. The interior is not a Mach 1 sports interior and again I am not a Boss expert but I think incorrect materials.
The door speaker grills are for 72 & 73 the 71 only has two vertical bars these have three.
I think the shift handle is after market Hurst not original Boss. Again not expert but I seem to recall lettering different on factory handle.
Trunk mat was never in Boss or Mach 1.
Spatter paint not on side marker lights.
I think you got space saver spare with Magnum 500 but not sure. Otherwise to get space saver had to have fold down.
Torque boxes were not black.
Leaf springs painted and no code markings.
There are two heater hose clamps on each hose at firewall and incorrect not Ford.
Front cross member bent from jacking from center.
Rust pits showing big time in rear end housing. Proper restoration would have filled them.
Shocks are not correct.
There has been not detailing of factory marks or little factory details done. To spend this kind of money it needs to be 100% correct to Ford and MCA specs. All sheet metal needs to be Ford and have correct date codes in the panels. Hood, Trunk, Quarters, Fenders, Grill, Doors, etc.
With this much of a list and just looking at pictures I am sure there are lots of sins hidden. I would not expect a car in this shape to bring half this price. If you put the car correct you would have to tear completely down and do all over which will cost you $40,000 min..
The engine not having the VIN# is the very big one. Does not matter if date code and casting # right the money show is the VIN#.
I would never look for a correct car at one of these big expensive shops. What do you think the overhead is per day on 175 cars and all the people and facilities to house them? This will end up off shore to an unsuspecting not informed customer with too much money.
That is how I see it.
David


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(05-19-2018, 10:15 AM)Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs Wrote: As usual with these guys a SHINY USED CAR. This is for sure not a restoration but done to someone's taste. Like others have said under hood is wrong. I put together a short list below not a Boss Expert so some may be correct for Boss.
Entire exhaust system incorrect.
Hood hinges painted not phosphate.
Shock caps painted not phosphate.
Shock tower braces black not SLOP grey.
Hood latch bracket black not SLOP grey.
Rev Limiter needs to checked they do make fake empty ones.
Of course Ford did not paint floors only have primer with some undercoat on floor and in rear wheel wells along with body color over spray.
Drive shaft painted and does not show paint mark codes.
Engine number not there is a big one, Ford did not leave them off so it has to be not number matching.
Steering wheel in bad shape.
Is the radio antenna large diameter on 71? My 72 & 73 all have skinny one.
The tire pressure sticker should be on door post not door end.
I could not read the door sticker or Marti. The interior is not a Mach 1 sports interior and again I am not a Boss expert but I think incorrect materials.
The door speaker grills are for 72 & 73 the 71 only has two vertical bars these have three.
I think the shift handle is after market Hurst not original Boss. Again not expert but I seem to recall lettering different on factory handle.
Trunk mat was never in Boss or Mach 1.
Spatter paint not on side marker lights.
I think you got space saver spare with Magnum 500 but not sure. Otherwise to get space saver had to have fold down.
Torque boxes were not black.
Leaf springs painted and no code markings.
There are two heater hose clamps on each hose at firewall and incorrect not Ford.
Front cross member bent from jacking from center.
Rust pits showing big time in rear end housing. Proper restoration would have filled them.
Shocks are not correct.
There has been not detailing of factory marks or little factory details done. To spend this kind of money it needs to be 100% correct to Ford and MCA specs. All sheet metal needs to be Ford and have correct date codes in the panels. Hood, Trunk, Quarters, Fenders, Grill, Doors, etc.
With this much of a list and just looking at pictures I am sure there are lots of sins hidden. I would not expect a car in this shape to bring half this price. If you put the car correct you would have to tear completely down and do all over which will cost you $40,000 min..
The engine not having the VIN# is the very big one. Does not matter if date code and casting # right the money show is the VIN#.
I would never look for a correct car at one of these big expensive shops. What do you think the overhead is per day on 175 cars and all the people and facilities to house them? This will end up off shore to an unsuspecting not informed customer with too much money.
That is how I see it.
David
David, I 100% agree with your observations. I sat here cringing at the $89 K price tag and then as you mentioned: they could not find the VIN on the block? Really? Total bullshit. I also noticed that if  it is not do to the camera the air cleaner and engine block Ford blue is way too light to be correct. There is so much wrong for that kind of money. It would probably be a good driver if they wanted $30 K. Ron
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(05-19-2018, 08:44 AM)SteveO_71 Wrote: Here is another one for $20K less. Price seems reasonable..Worth it or not?

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2637/1...g-boss-351

That is more reasonable and more correct.

Ron
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#9
@David, I think a wealthy guy in search for an exotic ride do not really care about leaf springs painted and no code markings.
It's exotic, it's looking brand new and the 90k price proves its the real deal! No VIN required.

Let's just be positive, its another 7173 mustang saved, for profit only ok, but it's been saved. (would love to see real picts of the car before)
Looking at it, it was also very good for the shops/repro parts maker and it contributes to 7173 reputation as valuable cars.

Sometimes I wonder how it's like to be loaded Smile

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(05-19-2018, 03:29 PM)Fabrice Wrote: @David, I think a wealthy guy in search for an exotic ride do not really care about leaf springs painted and no code markings.
It's exotic, it's looking brand new and the 90k price proves its the real deal! No VIN required.

Let's just be positive, its another 7173 mustang saved, for profit only ok, but it's been saved. (would love to see real picts of the car before)
Looking at it, it was also very good for the shops/repro parts maker and it contributes to 7173 reputation as valuable cars.

Sometimes I wonder how it's like to be loaded Smile

You make an excellent point. It is better that it is selling for substantial money which in turn assures it will continue to exist. I hope the new owner does not wrap it around a pole. We are all just critiquing it since it is being passed off as being a perfect example. Which it is not. 

Ron
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