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Austin Vert on Rec 'mended Companies.
#1
Hi to all Forum Top Brass,

Just had a few thoughts and friendly suggestions for the forum bosses and administration team.

As the Forum continues to grow, expand and develope, i've noticed that from time to time, vital information posted by Forum members,comes through about particular products, companies and services that get a genuine thumbs up reccomendation for being and offering a top notch company, product or service in relation to our '71-'73 Mustangs.

My suggestion is, wouldn't it be great to have a dedicated section and listing of all the reccomended companies and services that have a 5 Star forum reputation backup, so forum members have a quick and easy access reference to products, companies and services that they would be seeking to help restore their Mustangs.

I say this because iv'e noticed a lot of these recs get lost in the huge volume of threads and posts that have been lodged over the years by forum members. They then hardly see the light of day. A fast, easy, comprehensive ref library would solve the problem. It would also greatly reduce the amount of new ongoing forum member enquieries (especially new members) about products, companies and services that have been reccomended before in previous threads and posts.

I know the forum has it's own search engine,but you can spend a lot of time there trying to find a concise listing of reccomended things that you're seeking.

I think the tutorial thread listings that have recently been put in place,are a fantastic idea and great source of knowledge and help for the how to do this brigade. My idea would be of equal help and value in it's own way as well i think.Smile

Just my 2 cents worth team.Smile

Many thanks,

Greg.Smile

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Austin Vert;153832 Wrote:Hi to all Forum Top Brass,

Just had a few thoughts and friendly suggestions for the forum bosses and administration team.

As the Forum continues to grow, expand and develope, i've noticed that from time to time, vital information comes through about particular products, companies and services that get a genuine thumbs up reccomendation for being and offering a top notch company, product or service in relation to our '71-'73 Mustangs.

My suggestion is, wouldn't it be great to have a dedicated section and listing of all the reccomended companies and services that have a 5 Star forum reputation backup, so forum members have quick and easy access to products, companies and services that they would be seeking to help restore their Mustangs.

I say this because iv'e noticed a lot of these recs get lost in the huge volume of threads and posts that have been lodged over the years by forum members. They then hardly see the light of day. A fast, easy, comprehensive ref library would solve the problem. It would also greatly reduce the amount of new ongoing forum member enquieries (especially new members) about products, companies and services that have been reccomended before in previous threads and posts.

I know the forum has it's own search engine,but you can spend a lot of time there trying to find a concise listing of reccomended things that you're seeking.

I think the tutorial thread listings that have recently been put in place,are a fantastic idea and great source of knowledge and help for the how to do this brigade. My idea would be of equal help and value in it's own way as well i think.Smile

Just my 2 cents worth team.Smile

Many thanks,

Greg.Smile

Greg,

As I read your post something else comes to my mind. Another benefit of having a dedicated section for firms offering various products might be the competition factor. I'm not sure just how much impact this forum has on the Mustang restoration industry as a whole but ... it seems to be quite popular within the 71-73 Mustang community with quite a few members and probably even more transient readers looking for answers to specific questions. Requiring a high standard of quality and service in order for these firms to grace the screen of our computers will certainly encourage them to maintain, or improve their products and services, don't you think ?
I guess what will have to be established is a well defined rating system w/ specific criteria assigned to each rating. Of course in order to avoid certain legal issues Big Grin, lower rated firms simply won't be advertised at all. I would imagine no firm would sue the site for libelous advertising after receiving a high rating eh ?
Anyway, just my musings as I read another great post by you.

Pat
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#3
Requiring a high standard of quality and service in order for these firms to grace the screen of our computers will certainly encourage them to maintain, or improve their products and services, don't you think ?


Thanks Pat,

Yes, that can be a positive spin off effect with the competition factor happening i guess.

The big action game still lies with the '65 to '70 Mustang fraternity though.

Greg.Smile

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#4
"The big action game still lies with the '65 to '70 Mustang fraternity though."

One can certainly see that when you compare the available products and services for 65-70 to those for 71-73. However, as time passes and firms recognize the growing popularity of the 71-73's, they'll want to start cashing in on it.
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#5
So Greg, if I'm reading your original post correctly, you're basically suggesting some kind of an "Angie's List" kind of forum for feedback regarding the various vendors who support our projects.

I think it's a great idea, however the only concern I have might be with the odd review from someone who didn't get exactly what they want or felt they received bad service after creating a tense situation - how does one moderate that? If we simply clip the comment, then we're being biased, but if we let it stand, then we're possibly doing a disservice to the vendor because of an isolated incident. To remain neutral, we would almost have to be 'hands off' with the context of the comments (bad words, insults, etc., excepted of course) so as not to show bias.

But honestly, I like the idea because I know I've gotten burned before buying more than just a few "unobtainium" parts from so-called 'reputable' vendors (every one of them with 99%+ reputations on ebay). None of the vendors that advertise and/or participate on this site have ever let me down, though (just in case anybody was wondering). Wink

Eric

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Mister 4x4;153865 Wrote:So Greg, if I'm reading your original post correctly, you're basically suggesting some kind of an "Angie's List" kind of forum for feedback regarding the various vendors who support our projects.

I think it's a great idea, however the only concern I have might be with the odd review from someone who didn't get exactly what they want or felt they received bad service after creating a tense situation - how does one moderate that? If we simply clip the comment, then we're being biased, but if we let it stand, then we're possibly doing a disservice to the vendor because of an isolated incident. To remain neutral, we would almost have to be 'hands off' with the context of the comments (bad words, insults, etc., excepted of course) so as not to show bias.

But honestly, I like the idea because I know I've gotten burned before buying more than just a few "unobtainium" parts from so-called 'reputable' vendors (every one of them with 99%+ reputations on ebay). None of the vendors that advertise and/or participate on this site have ever let me down, though (just in case anybody was wondering). Wink

Hey Eric,

I may be mistaken but I think what Greg is suggesting is more in line with a simple "menu" of recommended vendors and services and not so much an "open forum". That way, instead of having to hunt through all the existing posts on various topics, a person can go straight to that section and run down the list of recommended vendors offering the product or service they are looking for. Of course the success of this type of thread on the forum would hinge greatly on the expertise and amount of experience those who contribute to the list have. I know I couldn't contribute very much at all.
Perhaps something like a "thumbs up" rating system would work ? Someone suggests a vendor and if it gets a certain number of "thumbs up" from members having experience dealing with that vendor, it gets placed on the "recommended vendor list". If it doesn't garner enough thumbs up, it simply doesn't make the cut. No testimonials good or bad are needed, just a preponderance of approval. That way the occasional malcontent doesn't "muddy the water" so to speak.
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I might be confused then, because we already have a section of forums dedicated to the site-sponsored vendors. They each have their own forum to post things like specific items for sale, specials, new products, etc., if they so desire.

Having a repository of all the vendors [who might deal in '71-'73 parts] with the services and items they offer could be a big undertaking (which is why you only see Mustang Monthly - and others - come out with those kinds of listing every year or 18 months or so) depending on how elaborate one would care to make it. Add to that, some sort of rating system, and you've got enough work to keep a guy or two busy for quite awhile setting it up, and periodically as the market and vendor changes ebb & flow. For instance, I really REALLY like the "Mr. Mustang" rear seat pan extensions I purchased from CJ Pony Parts almost 2 years ago, and would recommend them to anybody needing to repair those areas - except that they are no longer offered. After things are added, someone would have to police that list to remove things no longer offered... otherwise, the whole point of the list is kind of moot. That could become labor intensive, depending on how the market rolls.

Don't get me wrong, I still like the idea myself and I'm trying to think of a way to easily make something like this happen (or at least improve what we already have to include some of these things)... but I'm not a decision maker, so any further input you might have will only help flesh-out the idea and make the decision easier for the actual makers. Wink Big Grin

Eric

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Mister 4x4;153876 Wrote:I might be confused then, because we already have a section of forums dedicated to the site-sponsored vendors. They each have their own forum to post things like specific items for sale, specials, new products, etc., if they so desire.

Having a repository of all the vendors [who might deal in '71-'73 parts] with the services and items they offer could be a big undertaking (which is why you only see Mustang Monthly - and others - come out with those kinds of listing every year or 18 months or so) depending on how elaborate one would care to make it. Add to that, some sort of rating system, and you've got enough work to keep a guy or two busy for quite awhile setting it up, and periodically as the market and vendor changes ebb & flow. For instance, I really REALLY like the "Mr. Mustang" rear seat pan extensions I purchased from CJ Pony Parts almost 2 years ago, and would recommend them to anybody needing to repair those areas - except that they are no longer offered. After things are added, someone would have to police that list to remove things no longer offered... otherwise, the whole point of the list is kind of moot. That could become labor intensive, depending on how the market rolls.

Don't get me wrong, I still like the idea myself and I'm trying to think of a way to easily make something like this happen (or at least improve what we already have to include some of these things)... but I'm not a decision maker, so any further input you might have will only help flesh-out the idea and make the decision easier for the actual makers. Wink Big Grin

Heck Eric, it may be me who misunderstood what Greg was suggesting Undecided . You're right though, it would indeed be a monumental task creating something in the lines of my interpretation and that is something way beyond my capabilities. My comments are just random thoughts prompted by Greg's excellent ideas.
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#9
It's all good stuff here. Once we nail down exactly what's wanted and how to tackle making it happen, I'm sure it'll be yet another hugely beneficial feature of the site - which only puts us closer to the top of the heap of Best Mustang Sites ever! thumb

rofl

Yeah... I had pizza for lunch, so I might be a bit buzzed. Tongue

Eric

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#10
Hi Eric,

Thanks for your replies and feedback. I understand what you're saying.To help clarify my case that i'm putting forward, can i give a little example of what the forum section would be like.........


Site Heading Title----Reccomended Company, Products and Sevice Providers.

Site Contents Listings ------

INTERIOR. PROVIDER. RATING.
Console Clocks -
Clock Repair -
Center Consoles -
Door Cards -
Dash Pads -
Instrument Lighting -
Instrument Gauges -
Tachometers - Rocketman *****
Seat Frames -
Seat Upholstry -
Kickplates -
Carpet -
Vinyl Paints -
Vinyl Repair -

EXTERIOR.
Chrome Plating -
Paint & Panel Shops -
Tire Sales Outlets -
Wheel Sales Outlets -
Paint Companies -

MECHANICAL.
Front End Repair -
Exhaust Parts -
Exhaust Repair Shops -


And so it goes on and on....... So when forum members collectively agree that a particular company, service provider,or product is really first class and in that sense can therefore be reccomended,it can then be added to the ever growing list in that dedicated section. The section builds and grows as more and more recs are added to it.

For example, a forum member might post a question as to where he or she can get their console clock repaired properly. This topic and reccomended company to deal with may have been covered in an old thread last year say. My idea would be that member making the new enqueiry would simply go to the section, look up 'Clocks', or 'Clock Repair',and have that company listed and rated without any fuss. You could also, with each entry, include a link back to the original thread, so any forum member can quickly go back to the matter they are interested in to gain more detailed knowledge and background on that matter if they like.

I guess the downside overall would be setting the system up and ongoing maintenence in being a time consuming effort, but it could be done in theory. In regards companies or services or products going off the boil so to speek,the forum could maybe put in a heading disclaimer explaining the concept, and accepting no responsibility for say,a one off situation where the company might let down a certain customer, and the customer wasn't happy with that service.

I was just looking for a better more efficient, streamlined way of putting forum members in touch or contact with the products, services and companies they are looking for to help them with their restoration projects.
The concept is just a simple reference library to help forum members find what they're after faster. Thanks again Pat for your feedback and help.

BTW - Pardon my ignorance, but what is an 'Angie's List' exactly? I don't recall hearing that one before.



Could be worth considering i think!

Thanks,

Greg.Smile

Mister 4x4;153883 Wrote:It's all good stuff here. Once we nail down exactly what's wanted and how to tackle making it happen, I'm sure it'll be yet another hugely beneficial feature of the site - which only puts us closer to the top of the heap of Best Mustang Sites ever! thumb

rofl

Yeah... I had pizza for lunch, so I might be a bit buzzed. Tongue

Did you have a couple of Buds as well Eric?Big GrinBig Grin

Greg.Tongue

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