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Another blow to manufacturing in Au.
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Just heard on the radio this morning that Holden will also cease manufacturing here in Au by 2016.
The sources are accurate but still unofficial by Holden. Their official reply today was "no comment".

With Ford also closing in 2016, we've basically become uncompetitive with big manufacturing.
So much for the lucky country!

As those in the industry know, the workers at Ford and Holden are only a small percentage of those who will ultimately be out of work.
It is the many thousands of tier 1 and tier 2 suppliers to Ford and Holden who worry me more as they may not be looked after as well with a package as many of the smaller suppliers will liquidate... I've been there and it sucks...

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#2
Yes Jim,

Another sad day for Australia with this news.

There is of course more than one reason that has eventually caused this situation to happen, but i will stand by the fact that Australians have developed a love affair with all types of imported vehicles over the last couple of decades, and that has very much robbed Ford and Holden of any viable decent share of the Australian consumer car market anymore.

Many thousands upon thousands of vehicles are imported every year. I would love to know what the exact official statistic is in that regard.In this regard, Australians have contributed to killing off these local manufacturing companies.

This will have a fair dent with unemployment going up for sure, as there will be many workers who will find it very hard to find other jobs as well.

Is it any wonder then, that they've gone down the gurgler!Sad

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Greg, I agree, collectively we Australians are all to blame.
I for one plead guilty!

One of my cars is a Japanese SUV and my other "real" car is American! Go figure? Hehe

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#4
I have a Holden and a Ford, so you can thank us American's for keeping them afloat for youSmile

I am also planning on buying "the last of the v8s"SmileSmile Just before they stop making them altogether. But I love Utes so it has to be a 2014 FPV GS as this is the end of the Ford Ute.

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#5
Funny, as an american it seems more like it is our fault. Ford may be a worldwide company, but it is still american, and if closing the Australian division allows them to ramp up american manufacturing and exports and boost the economy here at your expense, that seems to be the way business is done. Holden's ties to GM are likely contributing to the same pattern.

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Hi Jeff,

You make a good point there,but i think there are two important things to keep in mind here. Australians are to blame here for not supporting their local Sherrif so to speak, and not buying enough Ford and GM cars to keep the local companies in business.Believe me, we LOVE, LOVE, LOVE our impoted vehicles here, and can't get enough of them!!
Even though Australian taxpayers have been propping up Ford and GM for many years to keep them in business here, can you blame them for eventually pulling out from manufacturing here, when they're making all these cars here, and they're not selling enough anymore locally to keep the doors open! Jesus, we are now even importing bloody cars from India!! Ford and GM have been dying a slow death here in Australia for several years.

Firstly. Ford and GM being American companies,and operating in Australia for so many years, have given Australians the advantage of owning locally designed and produced cars that have been purpose deigned and built for Australian road and climate conditions, at affordable prices, and have proven to be reliable and of good quality.(Althought traditionally not as big, swanky and stylish,as our American cousin's cars.Smile)

Secondly, the two car companies themselves,and all the affiliated smaller companies associated with manufacturing, producing and supplying all manner of parts to the big two, have over the decades, been responsible for providing many thousands of jobs and careers for Australians.

Sure, a percntage of profits have always leaked back to America, but the two areas i've pointed out above have meant good things for Australians over the decades. Idealy, it would be great to have an all Australian fully owned car company here, but that has only been a dream.

In an overall sense, i think that any country that becomes imbalanced by importing too many imported goods and products, as adversed to manufacturing and producing locally, and becomes very reliant on all that imported stuff, will eventually find itself in a precarious situation which won't be good at all for that country.

Greg.Sad

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I guess that is the reason that if I can spend my money on people I know as opposed to the larger cheaper chains, I do. Corporation decision makers IMHO should maybe take note of that and remember whos back their profits are built off of.

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Greg, speaking of corporate meltdowns, the Qantas shares were frozen on the stock exchange yesterday... I think another big kangaroo may be heading like the dodo. 300m loss for the year and a billion dollar loss overall.

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marks73;156600 Wrote:I guess that is the reason that if I can spend my money on people I know as opposed to the larger cheaper chains, I do. Corporation decision makers IMHO should maybe take note of that and remember whos back their profits are built off of.

Hi Mark,

Good point, but take our '71-'73 Mustangs parts situation for example; how much of these parts are made in overseas Asian countries instead of America? It's very hard to escape the reliance and dominance of imported products these days, as so many goods and products have been imported into our countries over the years.

You are now driving what was an all American lovely classic American car now with asian parts on it.

Companies seek out these asian countries to produce goods because of their cheap labor markets.How can American and Australian companies compete with our existing labor setups and costs!

Greg.Sad

JimNiki;156603 Wrote:Greg, speaking of corporate meltdowns, the Qantas shares were frozen on the stock exchange yesterday... I think another big kangaroo may be heading like the dodo. 300m loss for the year and a billion dollar loss overall.

Yeah Jim,

Another very sad story there for sure.I wonder has it got anything to do with recent management at all?AngryDodgyDodgy

Good old Richard Branson must be licking his lips!

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Hi Greg,

Yes, i suppose we should thank you in this instance, and being an American man as well!Smile

Greg.Smile

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Didn't you guys produce Rupert Murdoch and export him to Great Britain and the US?

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