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ALL Black
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This came up in another thread and I didn't want to take over, so I'm starting a new one.

Obsidian71;43500 Wrote:I was hell bent on pepper gray and metallic black for mine (the colors from Eleanor) love the combo, I was gonna mimic Boss 351 scheme with those colors. Then, every time I opened a Mustang mag there was another one in that color combo. So, not too long ago I finally decided on all black, not that black will be very different, but by all black, I mean ALL BLACK. the only thing I plan on not having black is the outter lip of the wheels.
...and do something "timeless" I can't tell you how many cars I've painted in a "different" or "trendy" color only to be sick of it 6 months later.

droptop73;43509 Wrote:How about black with satin black stripes, the same stripes you were planning on before.

I've often thought of doing the Boss 351 paint scheme at Least on the hood in satin and the rest of the car glossy... But here's the problem, I'm a painter and a very anal one, any time I've ever used more than one color in a two tone, graphics, etc. I've always cleared it, sanded it flat, and "flow coated" it with more clear to bury the lip between colors. If I do it with a combo of gloss & satin, I'll always have that lip, and it would bug me to death! So, the idea isn't dead...I just would have to figure out a way to do it so you couldn't see or feel the lip between satin an gloss...not sure if it could be done easily...from my painting experience I'm gonna say no...but where there's a will there's a way right???



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#2
I'm no painter but you might be able to use a flat clear.

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#3
That's what I would use, in fact they (PPG is all I use) have a straight flat clear, and also a flattening agent you can add to any of their clears and tailor the amont of gloss level based upon how much is added. The way I would normally do something like this would be to spray the base/clear as normal, then tape off the area to be flat, scuff it, and spray the flat clear. The issue is that when untaped, there would be an edge where the flat was sprayed...this would bug me because I'm psycho! Big Grin So, I'd have to figure out a way to minimize that lip, and make it as smooth as possible, or I just wouldn't bother.

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#4
Is there a way to make a soft edge by rolling the tape back on it self then blending the two different clears together.

Jayson
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#5
I don't see any problem in achieving this..I would spray your base MINUS the hood black out first..Mask that area off so the only thing going on it is the flat black right onto the primer..Where the 2 colors meet knock down the ridge with some 2000 w/d of course wet..Back tape or aperture tape both sides of where the 2 colors meet so there's only say a 1/4" on both sides of where the colors meet...I would then spray (since your a painter you know super low pressure small fan) that 1/2" with the SATIN clear to bury the joint..wet sand the joint...clear the entire base minus the black out..I'd then come back in when it's safe to tape the clear...Back tape regular clear side...Then do your satin clear on the black out..When you go to wet sand the clear for polishing you should be able to wet sand off the satin clear overlap since its only a small amount & it's sitting right on top of the regular clear..

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#6
Scott, you make it sound so easy! I'm looking forward to your "proper way to paint" videos next spring since all the paint knowledge I think I know is wrong. Tongue

You body & paint guys rock! I learn a lot from you both & others like Pappy, etc.


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72 Q-code Mach 1, Pewter/Black Sport, 4-spd, 3L25.
65 Convertible, Britney Blue/White/White, more modified than original.
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#7
So glad to your not going with pepper gray. All black would stand the test of time. My brothers friend had a all black 71 Mach 1. The window moldings and rear bumper was painted body color. With the windows tinted the car had a sinister look. The only chrome on the car was Mach 1 gas cap the chrome trim on the Mach 1 grill and the Cragar S/S with T/A 50s all the way around. This back in the early 80s. Unfortunately the car was sold to a kid in Newtown and shortly after he rolled it six times on interstate 84. The good news he walked away.
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mach71351c;43541 Wrote:So glad to your not going with pepper gray. All black would stand the test of time. My brothers friend had a all black 71 Mach 1. The window moldings and rear bumper was painted body color. With the windows tinted the car had a sinister look. The only chrome on the car was Mach 1 gas cap the chrome trim on the Mach 1 grill and the Cragar S/S with T/A 50s all the way around. This back in the early 80s. Unfortunately the car was sold to a kid in Newtown and shortly after he rolled it six times on interstate 84. The good news he walked away.

Mike, that's exactly what I'm currently planning to do with my M-code and leaving the red sport interior with black accents. That would be bad to the bone! I think I might do something black with the wheels with just a little chrome. The ram air hood would be a satin dark charcoal grey or satin black with the same color Mach 1 text on each fender & trunk. Chrome 71 gas cap, twist locks, and grill chrome all else blacked out.

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71 M-code Mach 1, Medium Blue/White Sport, 4R70W, 3L50, Factory Ram Air.
72 Q-code Mach 1, Pewter/Black Sport, 4-spd, 3L25.
65 Convertible, Britney Blue/White/White, more modified than original.
05 Convertible, Legend Lime/Tan/Tan, future classic??
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mach71351c;43541 Wrote:So glad to your not going with pepper gray. All black would stand the test of time. My brothers friend had a all black 71 Mach 1. The window moldings and rear bumper was painted body color. With the windows tinted the car had a sinister look. The only chrome on the car was Mach 1 gas cap the chrome trim on the Mach 1 grill and the Cragar S/S with T/A 50s all the way around. This back in the early 80s. Unfortunately the car was sold to a kid in Newtown and shortly after he rolled it six times on interstate 84. The good news he walked away.

Whats wrong with pepper grayHuh
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#10
Don, I think black with red sport interior would be sweet. I say dark charcoal wheels hood and Mach 1 text would top it off.
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