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'73 4 speed, rebuild or buy a new shifter?
#11
Here is the link to the thread that David was referring to.

https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-topl...=toploader

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

- Jason


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#12
I've run both the factory 71 Hurst shifter and the aftermarket Hurst Comp Plus units. Both are competent shifters and each has it's own advantages. The factory is nice with it's removable stick, but it has insulator bushings that get sloppy with age. The aftermarket is a single piece unit, but you can swap the nylon linkage bushings for bronze to improve shift feel. Both are complete garbage when you compare them to a straight linkage rod race shifter, but that requires major floor pan butchery.

If you're careful, you can disassemble the shifter body, clean it, -lightly- grease and reassemble. If the shims are wrecked, then you'll need to buy those. I have no idea if the Mexican Mustangs had a different shifter or parts. There's one sure-fire way to find out - dig in.


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#13
so I got an email back from Scott over at Hurst Shifters Online. they can sell me a new shifter kit, but he needs to know the exact trans and Ford part number off the tail shaft. does anyone happen to know the part number from the tail shaft and trans make/model?
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#14
You will need to look at yours. As discussed earlier in this thread ford used many different variations of the top loader and especially being you have one built in MX you will need the specific numbers off your actual trans.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

- Jason


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#15
This should help you, know where and what to look for.
http://mustangtek.com/transmission/Transmissions.html



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#16
thanks Don, that MustangTek link is very helpful.

now I have a really newbie question: if I am replacing the shifter, why exactly does it matter what the tailshaft length is, or the spline count? or maybe those things don't matter, but what does matter is the bolt pattern on the housing where you bolt the shifter, or the length/position of the linkage rods?

I'm trying to educate myself on why it matters so much which new hurst top loader 4 speed I buy, when I am just replacing a hurst top loader? what are the variables that matter? sorry for all the really basic questions, just trying to get educated. thanks for the help
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#17
There are two major parts of the shifter: the knob and lever that sticks up into the passenger compartment, and the shifter mechanism (which attaches the lever). The shifter mechanism has mounting plates that are specific to the tranny tail-shaft, and that affects the shifter rods and linkages. So...exactly where the shifter mounts affects nearly everything else in terms of placement and operation.

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#18
I thought you could send it to Hurst for a rebuild???

If this was already mentioned sorry - just reading these last posts.

Ray

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1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#19
(05-04-2019, 03:49 PM)Boss1Ray Wrote: I thought you could send it to Hurst for a rebuild???

If this was already mentioned sorry - just reading these last posts.

Ray

you can send out for a rebuild if you can wait 4-8 weeks.  I don't have place to have the car immobile for that long.
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#20
Mark at Toploader Heaven had a How To on his site for cleaning and adjusting the shifter. Normally, that's all they needed. His site is gone, but it's on the Wayback Machine.

https://web.archive.org/web/200304161952...eaning.htm


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