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'72 Sportsroof question
#1
So how common were otherwise plain jane sportsroof cars the came factory with nasa hood, 351 2v  and a three speed standard tranny?
 And what rear end would one likely have?
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#2
That is a tough one to answer since Marti's book did not break out Sportroof and Mach 1 into their own group. With them all together there were 936, 351 2-V with 3 speed built. The rear in all 351 cars is a 9" and ratio could vary depending on air or not. The sports roof could get the rocker moldings and wheel opening moldings that Mach 1 could not. The only thing that a Sports Roof could not have over a Mach 1 was the words Mach 1, The plastic insert in the carpet , honey comb tail light panel and the Mach 1 sports interior option. All other options were available on the Sports roof.
David


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#3
From all my research and documentation NO 1971-1973 Sportsroofs EVER "came with" NASA hood.

EDIT - correction see more posts in this thread for a few extremely rare cases where this might be wrong!  thx Ray

If the real build sheet indicate it was installed, I'd love to see it.  Highly doubtful.

But otherwise for the 15,622 1972 Sportsroofs,
only 304 "CAME WITH" the H-code 351-2V and the 1-code 3-Speed Manual transmission.

EDIT for David:  They built 632 1972 Mach 1's with this drivetrain.

As for the 1972 Mustang available rear-end ratios see the chart below:

   

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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(06-20-2018, 11:05 AM)Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs Wrote: That is a tough one to answer since Marti's book did not break out Sportroof and Mach 1 into their own group. With them all together there were 936, 351 2-V with 3 speed built. The rear in all 351 cars is a 9" and ratio could vary depending on air or not. The sports roof could get the rocker moldings and wheel opening moldings that Mach 1 could not. The only thing that a Sports Roof could not have over a Mach 1 was the words Mach 1, The plastic insert in the carpet , honey comb tail light panel and the Mach 1 sports interior option. All other options were available on the Sports roof.
David

David,

About the only thing a sportsroof couldn't get was the Mach 1 stickers. The interior was an option and the exterior bits were all part of the Decor group. 

Best part about a 351-2V 3 speed car is the ease of pitching the Crashbox of Sorrow with a proper Toploader 4-speed.


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#5
One other Mach I feature not mentioned is the pop off gas cap which only came on the 1971 Mach. The Boss 351 did not even have one, but in my opinion should have came standard with one.
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#6
Ok.. my mistake.. I was under the assumption from the pic I was sent. The seller now says it's a Mach 1
I am interested in the car but it's a long way from me.
I was wanting a sportsroof to build alongside my '72 Grandé as a pair.. this one maybe do some performance mods and paint both the same color as the oem bright metallic blue of the Grandé..

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#7
Ask him for the vin or a photo of the door tag. You can then determine if it is sportsroof or mach1 and what rear gears are in it.

'73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

'73 F code convertible. Bright red. Needs total restore. (IE HOT MESS)

- Jason
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#8
I would run from that one with a cowl looking like that that is not even a good parts car.
On the quantity they made I got the 936 number out of Marti's book but that is Mach 1 and sportsroof together. I have turned down several Mach 1's in better shape that that one is one for $1,000 and an M code for I think it was $2,500 with the super rare vinyl roof for 71. Why buy a car that you put 90% repo panels on that will be worth nothing in the end, Mach 1 or not. Remember Mach 1 was just smoke and mirrors not a performance package you had to pay for options to get performance. Find you a great rust free car to start with to save you thousands in the end. If you are going to resto mod go for a 6 cylinder model they are real cheap.
There is really not much desirable on that car not many parts that people seek either.
Place ads in different areas of the country and you will be surprised what comes up.
David


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(06-20-2018, 11:44 AM)Hemikiller Wrote:
(06-20-2018, 11:05 AM)Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs Wrote: That is a tough one to answer since Marti's book did not break out Sportroof and Mach 1 into their own group. With them all together there were 936, 351 2-V with 3 speed built. The rear in all 351 cars is a 9" and ratio could vary depending on air or not. The sports roof could get the rocker moldings and wheel opening moldings that Mach 1 could not. The only thing that a Sports Roof could not have over a Mach 1 was the words Mach 1, The plastic insert in the carpet , honey comb tail light panel and the Mach 1 sports interior option. All other options were available on the Sports roof.
David

David,

About the only thing a sportsroof couldn't get was the Mach 1 stickers. The interior was an option and the exterior bits were all part of the Decor group. 

Best part about a 351-2V 3 speed car is the ease of pitching the Crashbox of Sorrow with a proper Toploader 4-speed.

From what I understand the Decor Group was not available on Grandes or Sportsroofs. 

And I can think of 3 different (1971 only) body type/drivetrain order configurations that would have forced a normally-unavailable, functional, Dual Ram Induction hood setup. The 25 1971 Grandes, the 28 Hardtops and the 56 Sportsroofs equipped with the 429 ram air motor. 

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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(06-22-2018, 08:01 PM)Boss1Ray Wrote:
(06-20-2018, 11:44 AM)Hemikiller Wrote:
(06-20-2018, 11:05 AM)Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs Wrote: That is a tough one to answer since Marti's book did not break out Sportroof and Mach 1 into their own group. With them all together there were 936, 351 2-V with 3 speed built. The rear in all 351 cars is a 9" and ratio could vary depending on air or not. The sports roof could get the rocker moldings and wheel opening moldings that Mach 1 could not. The only thing that a Sports Roof could not have over a Mach 1 was the words Mach 1, The plastic insert in the carpet , honey comb tail light panel and the Mach 1 sports interior option. All other options were available on the Sports roof.
David

David,

About the only thing a sportsroof couldn't get was the Mach 1 stickers. The interior was an option and the exterior bits were all part of the Decor group. 

Best part about a 351-2V 3 speed car is the ease of pitching the Crashbox of Sorrow with a proper Toploader 4-speed.

From what I understand the Decor Group was not available on Grandes or Sportsroofs. 

And I can think of 3 different (1971 only) body type/drivetrain order configurations that would have forced a normally-unavailable, functional, Dual Ram Induction hood setup. The 25 1971 Grandes, the 28 Hardtops and the 56 Sportsroofs equipped with the 429 ram air motor. 

Ray

Just checked the '72 sales literature I have and I'm going to agree with you Ray. It states the exterior Decor group is "available only on base hardtop and convertible". 

Tape stripe is "Mach 1 or with exterior Decor Group only"

Under the NASA hood, it states "STD on Mach 1 with 351-2V or larger engine" and "Available only on Mach 1 models with 302-2V engines" and was a no charge option. However, under the 351-4V engine, it states the hood is included, and under Ram Induction, states it's available with 351-2V and 4V only. If that's all correct, a '72 Grandé could have a Ram Air hood. 

The Mach 1 Sports interior option is listed as "available on on sportsroof models with V-8 engine, so that means base sportsroof & Mach 1. Remember, that didn't include a tach, you had to pay extra for that - the Instrumentation Group, which had different prices depending upon what the car was equipped with in the way of interior.


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