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72 Grandé
72 Grandé - Overview (This post was last modified: 05-17-2012, 07:01 AM by Sly_drums.)
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Owner : Sly_drums
Data Added : 08-13-2011 - 01:42 AM
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Color : red
Engine : stock 351 Cleveland 2V
Transmission : C4
72 Grandé
I'm Sly from France, just bought this 72 Grandé that was built for exportation. I love it.
It's a 72 CJ car (Q code) with staggered shocks, but the original 351C 4V engine and C6 transmission were swapped years ago for a 351C 2V and C4 trans from a 72 Ranchero.
I bought it in august 2011 and there were tons of things to do because the car has been in a garage for ten years. It originally had an Autolite 2 barrel carb.
What I already did to the car this year :

New WEIAND XCelerator intake and Holley 600 carb
New Koni shocks
New Pypes 2.5" exhaust with X-pipe and Violator mufflers
New motor mounts
New K&N air filter
New NGK spark plugs and
New 13" Grant steering wheel
New left strut rod
New wiper motor
New water temp gauge
New Hella front lights
New hood scoop grills
New rear brake shoes
New Motorcraft radiator hoses
New leaf springs
New American Racing 15x7 wheels and Uniroyal Rain Expert tires (safer to drive in Europe)
New distributor points, alternator belt
New Pony fuel cap
etc.

Now the car drives very good and I'm very pleased, but it needs a bit more to be even more cooler. My plans for the future are : install a T5 trans, do an amazing new paint, Magnum 500 wheels.
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72 Grandé - Modifications
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72 Grandé - Details
Data Added : 08-13-2011 - 01:42 AM
Views : 3584
Color : red
Engine : stock 351 Cleveland 2V
Transmission : C4


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Nice looking car Sly! Looks like you have a well optioned car too. I like the radio antena location. Grandes are cool cars...all the 71-73 models are cool cars! :d

For the carb I like the Autolite 4100 style. Summit Racing took that design and improved it. I recommend that one. Holley carbs are good but many times for me are hard to tune just right. My cars have a mix of the original Autolite 2Vs, 4300s, and a couple of Holleys in the mix. By far though the easiest and most bullet proof carb I have is the 4100 on my '65.
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My Mustangs:
71 M-code Mach 1, Medium Blue/White Sport, 4R70W, 3L50, Factory Ram Air.
72 Q-code Mach 1, Pewter/Black Sport, 4-spd, 3L25.
73 F-code Convertible, Planned: color TBD/Black top/White Int., 351C, 5-spd, 3L50.
65 Convertible, Britney Blue/White/White, more modified than original.
05 Convertible, Legend Lime/Tan/Tan, future classic??
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Don65Stang;32901 Wrote:Nice looking car Sly! Looks like you have a well optioned car too. I like the radio antena location. Grandes are cool cars...all the 71-73 models are cool cars! :d

For the carb I like the Autolite 4100 style. Summit Racing took that design and improved it. I recommend that one. Holley carbs are good but many times for me are hard to tune just right. My cars have a mix of the original Autolite 2Vs, 4300s, and a couple of Holleys in the mix. By far though the easiest and most bullet proof carb I have is the 4100 on my '65.

Thanks Don !! Yeah those cars look amazing IMO (but that's not everyone opinion)

Where can I find that Summit carb ? Sounds interesting. The main problem I have is that I can't figure if the carb will match the intake manifold I just bought, which seems to be an original Ford one. Primary bores are tinier.
I'm going to post a pic.
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www.summitracing.com. I'm not happy with my 4300 but apparently that's a common opinion. Nice looking car! I don't know about the exhausts because mine has a custom H-pipe setup, not a kit from any of the manufacturers. Good luck!
Steve



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#5
Good looking Grandé! I have a '71 M-code Grandé with a 670 Holley and I wish I had put something bigger in it. I know the math says 600 is plenty for a 351 engine; but this is a Cleveland. Don't you hate it when people dummy down a performance car? Someone put a 2V system in this?? I also need a new exhaust system. Currently have a couple of Glasspacks and there is not much glass left. May decide to replace everything including adding headers. I will watch this thread and see what you decide to do.

mike
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Hey Mike, 71 Stangs are amazing !! I guess you have more HP in your stock Clevo than mine. 72 is the first year of petrol crisis Smile
Anyway I think you're right, I'd LOVE to try a 650 or more in mine, those engines are so legendary !! I still have a problem installing a new carb though Sad I explained it here : http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-wtb-6...1#pid32921

I would love to watch a video of your Stang running, will check your pics too Smile my girlfriend's father used to have a 71 Stang with manual transmission during 20 years !! Look at this :
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a...1823_n.jpg
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He could burn the tires easy Smile

If I find a good shipped overseas deal I'm going to order a MAGNAFLOW 15816 kit, of course I'll get back to you when I get it !
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#7
Nice looking car! Someone probably switched the two barrel on there to 'save gas' since it is a lot more expensive in France.

A couple of things. Are you sure it has a c4 transmission? This is not typical for a 351C optioned car. Unless someone swapped in the Cleveland at a later date from a 302.

Also, you might want to confirm that it still has the 4v heads on it. On the top of the heads in the corner you should see a rather large 2 or 4. This tells you if it is a 2v head or 4v head. It matters because the port sizes are different.
'Mike'
73 Convertible - 351C/4V CC heads/4bolt/forged flat tops/comp 270/rhodes/mallory unilite/tri-power/hookers/glasspacks/c6/3.50 limited slip/Gear Vendors/Global West sub frames, strut rods and shelby style traction bars/ Rear sway bar/tilt steering (not original)

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#8
Nice looking car. The NASA (also called NACA) hoods were available on all the models as an option, not just the Mach 1, so yours could be original to the car. You may want to purchase a Marti report that gives all the details of how you car was built. Check out the Marti forums for some examples: http://www.7173mustangs.com/forum-marti-reports

By the way, no problem understanding your English!

Mike AKA Ole Pony & Rare Pony

Our current Mustang garage/driveway
1973 Mustang Convert - Bought in 1974 - Still have it!
2004 Mach 1 Oxford White Auto, Bought Sept 06
2004 Mach 1, Azure Blue, Bought it Sept 09
2001 Mustang Bullitt - Dark Highland Green, Bought It Sept 29th, 07

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Yes it's a C4, and I just checked, it's "2" !
So it means it's a 351c 2V ? The VIN number indicates "Q code" but the engine may have been swapped for a 2V years ago I guess.

What do you mean by "port sizes" ?

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The Cleveland was available in two basic models the 2v and 4v. There were some variences over the years like adjustable valve train and other things but basically they get classified into 2v and 4v.

The designation refers to both the type of carb (2 barrel or 4 barrel) and the type of head used. THe 2v had a smaller ported head the 4v had a larger ported head. Both the intake and exaust ports are larger on the 4v head. Also, 4v clevelands had 4 bolt main caps and forged cranks.

Why this matters to you...

I saw in your other thread you bought an intake manifold for your Cleveland. If it is a stock ford unit and is for a 4 barrel carb then it will have the larger ports where it mates to the head. This manifold will not seal correctly on your 2v heads.

Now, where it gets confusing...

You can purchase after market intakes that use a 4 barrel carb but fit the 2v heads. So the 2v and 4v designation can be confusing since it is possible to have a 2v headed car with a 4v carb given the correct aftermarket intake.

The 2v motors are great engines and some will argue they are better for street use.

'Mike'
73 Convertible - 351C/4V CC heads/4bolt/forged flat tops/comp 270/rhodes/mallory unilite/tri-power/hookers/glasspacks/c6/3.50 limited slip/Gear Vendors/Global West sub frames, strut rods and shelby style traction bars/ Rear sway bar/tilt steering (not original)

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#11
Nice car. Well optioned for sure. It would be neat to see the Marti report.
Luxury Grandé, power windows, 351 CJ - I sure hope you can put a 351 Cobra Jet and C-6? trans back in it.
What a rare and fun car!

Ray


1971 Boss 351
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible
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#12
Hi Sly,
Nice car, I like the rear spoiler. Cool
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Mike

"If I were you...... I´d rather be me." Tongue

Check out my video:
http://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-my-mustang-in-action

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#13
Hello Nice car
Jeff T.

Low buck, touring style, '73 Convertible "rolling restoration", 351c, 2v heads with a shave and a haircut, Performer intake, Holley 650(ish), roller rockers, screw in studs, guideplates, stainless valves, Duraspark / Motorsports MSD, T-5 conversion. 1-1/8" front, 3/4" rear swaybars KYB shocks and some home brewed subframe connectors. Future plans; JGC steering box, Cobra brakes and... paint, interior, etc.

When I die I want to die like grandpa, peacefully in my sleep... not screaming, like his passenger.

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