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71 Mach 1 Mustang Advice
#1
Hey everyone!

New to the mustang world and was looking to see if anyone could help me out and offer some advice. I'm not sure about the market when it comes to mustangs. I dont want to buy a car thats not worth the time and money.

I have a car that I'm interested in buying and just wanted to see what you guys think its worth, I'll post some photos below.

Its a 71 Mach 1 mustang 351 Cleveland automatic. The car is in pretty good condition it looks like, runs and sounds amazing. It has 84,000 miles on it. A little rust in the floor pan on the driver rear and passenger. Pretty solid everywhere else. The interior needs a little work too. Paint looks good.

Thoughts? Is it worth buying and restoring (as a weekend driver)? What do you think its worth?[Image: Screenshot-20190826-144122-Video-Player.jpg][Image: 20190825-120806.jpg]

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Welcome from Iowa. Looks like a nice car from the pics. There is a lot wrong under the hood. The most glaring is that there is no PCV system in place as well as lots of other incorrect stuff going on. Like you stated the interior is sad. Are you looking for something to be or put back to factory or something to enjoy driving, tinkering, and not too concerned about factory? Or are you looking to put something back to concourse? Giving a value to car based on some pics is nearly impossible. Is the car an "H" code? "M" code? What options did it all come with?

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(08-26-2019, 02:05 PM)73pony Wrote: Welcome from Iowa. Looks like a nice car from the pics. There is a lot wrong under the hood. The most glaring is that there is no PCV system in place as well as lots of other incorrect stuff going on. Like you stated the interior is sad. Are you looking for something to be or put back to factory or something to enjoy driving, tinkering, and not too concerned about factory? Or are you looking to put something back to concourse? Giving a value to car based on some pics is nearly impossible. Is the car an "H" code? "M" code? What options did it all come with?

Thank you!!! And I'm mainly looking to enjoy driving and tinkering at the moment. This will be my first time buying and fixing up a car but one day down the road I might decide to restore it to factory. The car is an H code. I'm not too sure about the options. Really new to all of this but I feel like i gotta start somewhere!
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It's also had some damage to the right rear that either wasn't repaired or repaired porly.

Rust on the passenger side front floor is an indication the the cowl may be rusted out and leaking onto the floor. Pull those plastic grates off the cowl, in front of the windshield wipers, and take a look, not easy to see in there with the hood on. You might be able to take some pictures with a cell phone, an inspection camera with a flexible camera cable works best. You'll at least need a mirror. Hard to see from the inside, due to the heater. Removing the glove box helps.

You'll also want to look under it, the inside of the rocker panels and the torque boxes are the critical support areas. The torque boxes are what connect the front and rear frame rails to the body.

When the seller can't even be bothered with installing the PCV hoses, it makes me wonder what else they couldn't be bothered with.

Hard to come up with a price without a complete inspection. Paint can cover too many issues, like rusted out panels bondo'd over then painted.



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#5
make sure you want an automatic and not a 4spd. for me, shifting is half the fun.
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#6
actually, I think its more like 78% of the fun of having a Mach 1.
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(08-26-2019, 02:35 PM)Don C Wrote: It's also had some damage to the right rear that either wasn't repaired or repaired poorly.

Rust on the passenger side front floor is an indication the the cowl may be rusted out and leaking onto the floor. Pull those plastic grates off the cowl, in front of the windshield wipers, and take a look, not easy to see in there with the hood on. You might be able to take some pictures with a cell phone, an inspection camera with a flexible camera cable works best. You'll at least need a mirror. Hard to see from the inside, due to the heater. Removing the glove box helps.

You'll also want to look under it, the inside of the rocker panels and the torque boxes are the critical support areas. The torque boxes are what connect the front and rear frame rails to the body.

When the seller can't even be bothered with installing the PCV hoses, it makes me wonder what else they couldn't be bothered with.

Hard to come up with a price without a complete inspection. Paint can cover too many issues, like rusted out panels bondo'd over then painted.

I'll definitely take a look at it to see if its rusted out, I'll have to go the cell phone route. I've got a mechanic whose gonna come take a look at the under side and check out what I might've missed but I'll be sure to mention it to him to look at those areas specifically. 
And the seller came across it as a barn find I think and didnt really do much to it except clean it up a bit.
I am definitely worried about paint cover ups though. ?
Thanks for the info and help!!!
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(08-26-2019, 03:03 PM)MustangNJ Wrote: actually, I think its more like 78% of the fun of having a Mach 1.
Haha I'd agree with you on that but I don't mind it being an automatic this time! Maybe my next one lol
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Do you guys think, from what you can see, that $7,500 is too high of a price? (Given that its hard to price a vehicle based upon the pictures shown).
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(08-26-2019, 03:25 PM)Newtostangs Wrote: Do you guys think, from what you can see, that $7,500 is too high of a price? (Given that its hard to price a vehicle based upon the pictures shown).

My heart says that's a decent price for a running, driving 71 Mach 1.

My gut says there's more to this story. The car has obviously been messed around with, lots of pieces missing, but nothing that can't be fixed. I see A/C controls, but no components under the hood. I also see a tach in the dash, but no center gauges, so that appears to have been added. Rear spoiler is a bad repop or off another model car. To be honest,if it has minimal rust and runs and drives nice, $7500 seems fair. 

Anyway, first step is to verify the VIN that it actually is a Mach 1. If it's an H-code 71, it should read "1x05Hxxxxxx". If it has a "02H", it's just a sportsroof with Mach 1 stickers.


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