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429 Grandé Article very rare car
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http://www.streetlegaltv.com/news/ebay-f...t-mustang/

Pics are as it was advertised on Ebay a few years ago.

Funtional Ram Air hood was standard with the CJ-R motor.

Grandé is missing its white vinyl top.



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Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#2
That looks to be a factory-painted hood. It should be well documented before being repainted.
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#3
Kit Sullivan;192130 Wrote:That looks to be a factory-painted hood. It should be well documented before being repainted.

With all your ram air hood paint research - I was hoping you would chime in on this one! There are way too many version of how to do a correct hood blackout (or in argent) treatment.

Do you have a template?

Thanks Kit.

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#4
Are you sure it is factory? Looks like the rest of the car had been repainted. (Different vinyl top, no badges).

'Mike'
73 Convertible - 351C/4V CC heads/4bolt/forged flat tops/comp 270/rhodes/mallory unilite/tri-power/hookers/glasspacks/c6/3.50 limited slip/Gear Vendors/Global West sub frames, strut rods and shelby style traction bars/ Rear sway bar/tilt steering (not original)

Pics of modifications included in:
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#5
The templates from Pheonix Graphics and Graphics Express are correctly shaped. ( my car was used by one of them to make thier template)

The shape of the front corners is where most get it glaringly wrong. The design comes almost back to parallel with the side edge of the hood before turning along the front edge. That is almost never duplicated correctly.
It looks like an OEM-painted hood to me.

Also note how close the design is to the molding on the leading edge of the hood. Thanks to Jeff Ford and Mustang Monthly's wildly incorrect article about how an OEM hood was painted, there are many, many restored cars out there with unintentionally incorrectly painted hoods. They claimed the design was placed farther back on the hood, screwing up all the curved dimensions around the scoop character lines.
This one here one this 71 Grandé looks correct.

Side note: I always took umbrage at Ford's useage of the word "Grandé" for this Mustang model. The word "Grandé" does not have the same meaning as "Grand", or even "Gran", as I think they may have intended.
"Grandé" actually means "big" or "extra large"...and this Mustang is no bigger than any other Mustang sold during the same year.

However, with the monsterous 429 CJ lurking under the hood...maybe the only appropriate name actually is........
.........Grandé!
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will e;192134 Wrote:Are you sure it is factory? Looks like the rest of the car had been repainted. (Different vinyl top, no badges).

Good points Will. Thanks!

The vinyl top just appears to be missing (removed) and the top probably cleaned and repainted. A white vinyl top on a green car... hmmm interesting.

I am really hoping more try and replicate the correct design - and we help provide good reference. Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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#7
Sorry fellows, I tend to believe this one is a (very good) repaint. Ford didn't put full paint under the vinyl roofs if they didn't have to; even the finish that did wind up under the roof was thinner than the rest on the car.

EDIT: Now I'm sure it's a repaint. Font on the hood is Arial - straight out of Windows:

[Image: %24(KGrHqIOKo0E32)oY9r!BOH19E5mWg~~_4.JPG]

Ad: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1971-429-CO...7675.l2557

I believe some of the seam lines were finished in plastic filler as well instead of lead, though this may apply only to later vehicles.

-Kurt

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#8
I didn't see that photo...good catch. That is definitely not correct font for hood decals.
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Kit Sullivan;192273 Wrote:I didn't see that photo...good catch. That is definitely not correct font for hood decals.

+1

Curious but what is the correct font for ram air decals? (and other related ones ?)

Ray

1971 Boss 351  
1972 Q code 4 speed convertible 
1971 Mustang Sportsroof  351-2V FMX 
1973 Mach 1 (parts car)
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Boss1Ray;192283 Wrote:Curious but what is the correct font for ram air decals? (and other related ones ?)

Though you can't always rely on the names given to similar computer fonts to be correct (as some may be digitized versions of the original under a new name, and others are ripoffs of the originals), the Ram Air font is a bold variant of Eurostile - originally designed in 1962:

http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/resul...&x=78&y=33

Eurostile Ext Black, Eurostile MN Extended Bold, and Microgramma D Bold Extended are all very suitable given the right kerning. Microgramma D Bold Extended has a slightly different shape to the "A," which would have to be confirmed against an original decal.

You can read about the development and variants of Eurostyle on the old Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurostile

This appears to be an excellent digital reproduction using one of the proper Eurostile fonts:
[Image: FOD096.jpg]

This is a poor attempt at a digital reproduction using a similar - but incorrect - font:
[Image: 13934543012701504369091.jpeg]

And, of course, the Arial font on this Grandé is incorrect as well (and is a poor show of effort and pride on the part of whoever did the stencil).

-Kurt

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