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351C Oil Mod Kit on eBay
#1
Saw this on eBay today. Just curious if anyone has used this kit or has any info on it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351-C-Cleveland-...0510413754

'73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

'73 F code convertible. Bright red. Needs total restore. (IE HOT MESS)

- Jason
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#2
I have that exact kit sitting on my shelf. It is not of the quality that I would use on a car.

Look for AN fittings, braided lines and something better than a hardware store brass junction.

burn that rubber hose and you spray oil and lose pressure quickly. While the idea is probably sound, I believe it is also likely to give higher pressure readings as a result of having the pressure gauge read off of an oil galley before it has passed through the engine. I would prefer to have my sending unit as far away from the oil pump as possible because the lowest pressure is what worries me.

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#3
Kind of what I was wondering based on the photos.

'73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

'73 F code convertible. Bright red. Needs total restore. (IE HOT MESS)

- Jason
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#4
If you want to waste your money than by some fluffy dice as it does the same job as these things. They do nothing really for oil pressure except give false reading. As had been said earlier it looks like cheap crap bought from the local hardware store, there is a braided line one sold here in Australia but it's in the exact same category, plus external lines just gives something else to fail and being oil pressure it won't be pretty if it does. 

Nothing more needed than a properly set up oiling system in the Cleveland if it's going to be revved past 6500 RPM and below that the standard system is quite adequate with a quart of extra oil like the Boss 351. I've proven time and time again that Clevelands live fine at 6500-7000 RPM's in such events like doing burnouts. Not my thing but that's what some are into, but being revved the ring out of it for 1 1/2-2 minutes doing donut after donut, whipped around in all directions and occasionally even revved higher than that and come out every time running fine. The only thing done to them where oil drain back mods and a decent sump, no restrictors, no special pushrods, basically stock oiling system. Actually built one for a guy years ago out junk laying around and revved that thing past 8000RPM with just my usual block mods including restrictors, with a great sump though. It actually revved to 9200 RPM when it hit a puddle of water. Didn't hurt it and kept running for ages after that. Of course the Cleveland has oiling system faults just like all 50 year old technology does, but that short coming was only found in sustained high RPM usage, like NASCAR and production touring car racing here in Australia. The oil system faults were either revving past 7000 RPM or during hard cornering, other than that the Cleveland is fine.
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#5
People have been selling kits like this for a long time. I have a buddy who used one on his 70 Mach 1 351c about 10 years ago. He still managed to spin a rod bearing about 6 months after he built his motor. Fault of the bypass line? We will never know if it helped or had no factor.

Lifter bushings and restrictor kits are the only real way to be worry free, if you worry at all about your high rpm oiling. Some people tout specific cam bearings, but the restrictor kits do the same thing.

Mike
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#6
Thanks for the info. Not planning on spinning past 6500 (at least not for very long and not often).

'73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

'73 F code convertible. Bright red. Needs total restore. (IE HOT MESS)

- Jason
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#7
Yeah, if you just whip it up to 6500 for a short period the stock system works. (At least it has for me). If you are circle track racing and keeping it at that kind of RPM then oil mods might be necessary. But I think most people would opt for a dry sump system at that point.

'Mike'
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