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351c heat riser Is it really necessary?
#1
I need a heat riser for my 1971 351c so I can refurb an OEM air breather
Is a heat riser really necessary?
I’d assume not unless I’m driving in the winter but the car is stored in a heated shop
So if you have any input , I’d appreciate it
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#2
They are designed to improve cold weather driveability. The exhaust manifolds heat up quickly and provide warm air to improve fuel vaporization and to help reduce fuel condensation on the inside of the intake manifold runners, until the engine gets up to operating temperature.

Because you do not drive yours in cold weather the only reason you would want it is so the engine bay has the original look.



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(12-30-2019, 06:02 PM)Don C Wrote: They are designed to improve cold weather driveability. The exhaust manifolds heat up quickly and provide warm air to improve fuel vaporization and to help reduce fuel condensation on the inside of the intake manifold runners, until the engine gets up to operating temperature.

Because you do not drive yours in cold weather the only reason you would want it is so the engine bay has the original look.
Very well put Don. Thanks for the clarification
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#4
Back in the day when these were new off the dealer's lot, if you lived in the rust belt region and drove the car as a daily driver on the salted roads in the winter season (which 95% of owners did), the heat riser sheet metal around the exhaust manifold typically rusted away within 2-3 years. So as a result, your heat riser tube fell off or was removed since it was not longer connected to the manifold and/or rattled from vibration.

Maybe fuel economy suffered a bit, but usually no one noticed or cared as long as the car started and got you where you needed to be.
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(12-31-2019, 08:11 AM)Bill73Ragtop Wrote: Back in the day when these were new off the dealer's lot, if you lived in the rust belt region and drove the car as a daily driver on the salted roads in the winter season (which 95% of owners did), the heat riser sheet metal around the exhaust manifold typically rusted away within 2-3 years.  So as a result,  your heat riser tube fell off or was removed since it was not longer connected to the manifold and/or rattled from vibration.

Maybe fuel economy suffered a bit, but usually no one noticed or cared as long as the car started and got you where you needed to be.
Ahhh... I could see that happening 
mom mostly interested in appearance like Donc mentioned. If I can’t find one then I’ll go without
thanks for the input!!
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#6
On or about 11/24/19 there was a thread by Texasboss wanting a heat riser for the 351 4V in the want section of classified ads below. I'll see if I can link it, not too good t that stuff.  https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-wtb-...d-for-351c
Anyway there are two types. a long version for the 2V and short for the 4 V. TE gave a number of D1AZ-9A603-A for the short one. A couple of guys had one for sale, may still have, no idea. Try a want ad in the classifieds, you might get lucky.
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(12-31-2019, 12:34 PM)Stanglover Wrote: On or about 11/24/19 there was a thread by Texasboss wanting a heat riser for the 351 4V in the want section of classified ads below. I'll see if I can link it, not too good t that stuff.  https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-wtb-...d-for-351c
Anyway there are two types. a long version for the 2V and short for the 4 V. TE gave a number of D1AZ-9A603-A for the short one. A couple of guys had one for sale, may still have, no idea. Try a want ad in the classifieds, you might get lucky.
Geoff.
Yeah I saw a diagram of the 2v long version so I’d assume I’d need a short one because I’m running a 4 bbl now and it would suffice
thanks for info Geoff!!
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(12-31-2019, 03:56 PM)Rmach1 Wrote:
(12-31-2019, 12:34 PM)Stanglover Wrote: On or about 11/24/19 there was a thread by Texasboss wanting a heat riser for the 351 4V in the want section of classified ads below. I'll see if I can link it, not too good t that stuff.  https://www.7173mustangs.com/thread-wtb-...d-for-351c
Anyway there are two types. a long version for the 2V and short for the 4 V. TE gave a number of D1AZ-9A603-A for the short one. A couple of guys had one for sale, may still have, no idea. Try a want ad in the classifieds, you might get lucky.
Geoff.
Yeah I saw a diagram of the 2v long version so I’d assume I’d need a short one because I’m running a 4 bbl now and it would suffice
thanks for info Geoff!!
 You're welcome.
Geoff.

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#9
"Yeah I saw a diagram of the 2v long version so I’d assume I’d need a short one because I’m running a 4 bbl now and it would suffice
thanks for info Geoff!!"

It's not just that the short version came with the 4 barrel carb, it's that the 4 barrel exhaust manifolds are larger. Your post sounds like you changed the intake and carb to a 4 barrel, but if you still have the 2 barrel exhaust manifolds, the longer ones are correct, and easier to find.

The 2V version also has two pieces, an inner and an outer. I have one of the inner pieces, if you want to PM me.
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(01-01-2020, 12:51 AM)rvrtrash Wrote: "Yeah I saw a diagram of the 2v long version so I’d assume I’d need a short one because I’m running a 4 bbl now and it would suffice
thanks for info Geoff!!"

It's not just that the short version came with the 4 barrel carb, it's that the 4 barrel exhaust manifolds are larger. Your post sounds like you changed the intake and carb to a 4 barrel, but if you still have the 2 barrel exhaust manifolds, the longer ones are correct, and easier to find.

The 2V version also has two pieces, an inner and an outer. I have one of the inner pieces, if you want to PM me.
  Good point on the exhaust manifolds, unless the heads were changed as well as the intake.
Geoff.

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