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351 Windsor performance Help wanted please
#11
(10-08-2018, 01:14 PM)Carolina_Mountain_Mustangs Wrote:
(10-07-2018, 12:53 PM)Nige Wrote: Hi All

1973 mach 1 with 351 Windsor 2v

what is best way to make quicker for road not for drag racing , will 4 barrel carb do much , any info would be great .

Thanks Nige

Nige,
It that a replacement engine or a Mexican model? No Windsor in U.S. Mustangs from factory.
How can i find out this information
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#12
in 1973 the mustang with a 351 engine would have been a Cleveland and not a Windsor. Easiest way to tell is look at the front of the engine where the distributor is. Does the cooling hose enter directly into the top of the block next to the distributor or does it connect to the intake manifold? Cleveland's have a dry intake manifold so if the cooling hose enters directly into the clock it is a Cleveland. If it is connected to the intake it is likely a Windsor. Post some pics of the front and we should be able to tell you for sure. No one wants to see you buying parts for the wrong engine.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

- Jason


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(10-08-2018, 02:26 PM)73pony Wrote: in 1973 the mustang with a 351 engine would have been a Cleveland and not a Windsor. Easiest way to tell is look at the front of the engine where the distributor is. Does the cooling hose enter directly into the top of the block next to the distributor or does it connect to the intake manifold? Cleveland's have a dry intake manifold so if the cooling hose enters directly into the clock it is a Cleveland. If it is connected to the intake it is likely a Windsor. Post some pics of the front and we should be able to tell you for sure. No one wants to see you buying parts for the wrong engine.

heres a picture engine i could be wrong previous owner told me windsor ?


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#14
do you see the hose coming from the top of radiator to the engine? The fan shroud in this pic blocks the view of where it terminates. If it goes into the top of the block it is a Cleveland. If it goes to manifold it is likely a Windsor. Can you take a pic close up of where it terminates.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

- Jason


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#15
Based on the size (width) and how the coolant hose appears to terminate I would say it is a Cleveland.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

- Jason


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(10-08-2018, 02:42 PM)73pony Wrote: Based on the size (width) and how the coolant hose appears to terminate I would say it is a Cleveland.

ok i will get some pictures tomorrow in the day light thanks
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#17
Looks like Cleveland valve covers.



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#18
(10-08-2018, 03:05 PM)Don C Wrote: Looks like Cleveland valve covers.

Ah yes the other way to determine. Cleveland valve covers have 8 bolts. A Windsor has 6.

73 Grandé H Code. Headman long tube headers, T-5 Transmission, 3.70 Traclok, Lowered 1" all around, Aussie 2v heads w/ 2.19 intake, 1.71 exhaust, screw in studs, full roller cam 608/612 lift 280/281 duration LSA 112, Quick Fuel 750 CFM double pumper, AirGap intake.

- Jason


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#19
That is a 351C. No 351W's had that shape valve cover. Besides the already great suggestions on how to ID this engine, you can also look at the fuel pump mounting bolts. The 351C has vertical mounting bolts and the 351W are horizontal. This and counting the valve cover bolts are easy peasy!


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Steve

No Officer...I really don't know how fast I was going, my speedometer stopped at 140!
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#20
Thanks for the info all it is a cleveland it has vertical thermo housing , 8 bolt valve covers and bolt top and bottom fuel pump.

in the add seller said had windsor ?
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